Respiratory Paediatrics For GPs Dr Jennifer Townshend Consultant

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Respiratory Paediatrics For GP’s Dr. Jennifer Townshend Consultant Paediatrician

Respiratory Paediatrics For GP’s Dr. Jennifer Townshend Consultant Paediatrician

Overview � Context � Some common presentations � Common complains ◦ Wheezy infant ◦

Overview � Context � Some common presentations � Common complains ◦ Wheezy infant ◦ Wheezy child ◦ Chronic cough

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Is it important? � Respiratory distress is the most common complaint for which children

Is it important? � Respiratory distress is the most common complaint for which children seek medical care. � Up to 10% of children have a persistent cough at any one time � 1/3 of 1 -5 year olds suffer recurrent wheeze

A familiar case? � 9 year old boy � Diagnosed with asthma 4 years

A familiar case? � 9 year old boy � Diagnosed with asthma 4 years ago � Never free from symptoms � Ends up in hospital about once per year � Nothing seems to be working

What are your thoughts? � What do you want to know? � What else

What are your thoughts? � What do you want to know? � What else could be going on?

Subsequent questions � Typical history of poorly controlled asthma � Very poor compliance �

Subsequent questions � Typical history of poorly controlled asthma � Very poor compliance � Poor inhaler technique � Smoking (never in the house) � Chaotic family situation ◦ Parents separated last month ◦ Dad no idea what inhalers he takes

On examination � Not clubbed, normal chest shape � Audible wheeze through out �

On examination � Not clubbed, normal chest shape � Audible wheeze through out � Lung function 65% predicted ◦ 18% reversibility post salbutamol ◦ Wheeze resolves post inhaler � CXR normal � Eosinophils 0. 4, Ig. E 112

What is the likely diagnosis? � Poorly controlled atopic asthma

What is the likely diagnosis? � Poorly controlled atopic asthma

Are you concerned? � RF ◦ ◦ for life threatening disease Poor compliance Poor

Are you concerned? � RF ◦ ◦ for life threatening disease Poor compliance Poor technique Chaotic social situation Parental smoking, risk of child smoking

Another familiar case? � 18 month old girl ‘There’s something wrong with my child

Another familiar case? � 18 month old girl ‘There’s something wrong with my child – she picks up everything. I think its her immune system’ ‘She’s always chesty, and pants with her breathing’ ‘This has been going on for as long as I can remember…. . ’

What do you think? � What else do you want to know? � What

What do you think? � What else do you want to know? � What could be going on?

Further questioning � Well until 9 months of age � Developed viral URTI –

Further questioning � Well until 9 months of age � Developed viral URTI – very chesty at this time ◦ Clarify chesty means wheeze and dry cough’ � Period where completely symptom free � Subsequent pattern: ◦ URTI wheeze and SOB ◦ Resolves completely before the next episode � Thriving � No FH atopy, no premature birth � Normal examination

What is the likely diagnosis? � Episodic viral wheeze

What is the likely diagnosis? � Episodic viral wheeze

Wheeze

Wheeze

Wheeze � What is it?

Wheeze � What is it?

Wheeze � What is it? ‘a continuous high pitched musical sound emitting from the

Wheeze � What is it? ‘a continuous high pitched musical sound emitting from the chest in expiration as a result of narrowing of the small airways’

Wheeze � Where does it come from? ◦ Closed cavity ◦ Relationship between pressure

Wheeze � Where does it come from? ◦ Closed cavity ◦ Relationship between pressure and volume

Wheeze � What causes it? • All that wheezes is not asthma……. .

Wheeze � What causes it? • All that wheezes is not asthma……. .

Alerting symptom/Sign Possible diagnosis Clinical Clue

Alerting symptom/Sign Possible diagnosis Clinical Clue

Alerting symptom/Sign Possible diagnosis Clinical Clue Wheeze present from birth Structural Laryngeal Congestive heart

Alerting symptom/Sign Possible diagnosis Clinical Clue Wheeze present from birth Structural Laryngeal Congestive heart failure GORD +/- aspiration Present from birth Wheeze present shortly after birth BPD Compromised host defence • CF • Immunodeficiency • PCD Sudden onset in previously well child Foreign body aspiration History Unilateral reduced breath sounds Persistent wet cough Compromised host defence Bronchiectasis Rct infections, FTT Purulent sputum Post viral wheeze Post bronchiolitic cough History of recent bronchiolitis Obliterative Fine creps, bronchiolitis hyperinfation Persistent wheeze, no variation • FTT, malabsorption • FTT, rct infections • FTT, rct ear infections

Asthma phenotypes � Asthma more complex, especially in children � Different patterns of illness

Asthma phenotypes � Asthma more complex, especially in children � Different patterns of illness having different underlying pathogenesis � Different phenotypes have different management strategies and different prognosis

Atopic Asthma � Most commonly recognised phenotype � Classical characteristics

Atopic Asthma � Most commonly recognised phenotype � Classical characteristics

Atopic asthma - characteristics � School aged child � Episodic ◦ ‘exacerbations’: (wet) cough/wheeze/SOB

Atopic asthma - characteristics � School aged child � Episodic ◦ ‘exacerbations’: (wet) cough/wheeze/SOB ◦ Interval symptoms: (dry) cough, nocturnal, exercise � Identifiable triggers � Personal/FH atopy � Raised eosinophils/Ig. E

What about cough varient asthma? � Very rare to (Mc. Kenzie, 1994) cough without

What about cough varient asthma? � Very rare to (Mc. Kenzie, 1994) cough without wheeze in asthma � More likely to be a marker for another condition � But, does exist – consider trial of asthma therapy if all other conditions excluded

Management of atopic asthma � Step wise approach to medication � Support self management

Management of atopic asthma � Step wise approach to medication � Support self management ◦ ◦ ◦ Education Shared decision making Asthma management plan Delivery techniques Avoidance of triggers � Associated allergies? � Regular review ◦ monitoring for side effects ◦ compliance

A few things to mention � Inhaled corticosteroids ◦ Friend? Foe? Practically? � Long

A few things to mention � Inhaled corticosteroids ◦ Friend? Foe? Practically? � Long acting beta agonists ◦ Better then doubling dose of ICS ◦ But safe? ?

Atopic asthma – when to refer � Many variables � Secondary or tertiary?

Atopic asthma – when to refer � Many variables � Secondary or tertiary?

Atopic asthma – when to refer Feature Poor response to 800 mcg per day

Atopic asthma – when to refer Feature Poor response to 800 mcg per day of beclomethasone or equivalent Comment Patient should be on otherpies Concordance and drug delivery need careful assessment Poor response to 400 mcg per day of beclomethasone and needs add on therapies the primary care physician is unfamiliar with Young child (< 5 yrs) where there is uncertainty over drug delivery Needs expertise of specialist asthma nurse Young child < 1 yr where there is often doubt over the diagnosis Recurrent admission to hospital Suggests dangerous pattern of illness Particularly severe acute asthma such as needing IV therapies or intensive care These high risk patients should always be referred

Prognosis �¼ of children who have a wheezing illness at age 7 will wheeze

Prognosis �¼ of children who have a wheezing illness at age 7 will wheeze at age 33 � Majority have a period of remission in late adolescence followed by a relapse � Recurrence of wheeze in later life is strongly associated with cigarette smoking and atopy

Asthma phenotypes (2) � Atopic Asthma � Episodic viral wheeze ‘the wheezing infant’

Asthma phenotypes (2) � Atopic Asthma � Episodic viral wheeze ‘the wheezing infant’

Episodic viral wheeze � Characteristic ◦ ◦ ◦ features Common following RSV infection Often

Episodic viral wheeze � Characteristic ◦ ◦ ◦ features Common following RSV infection Often no history of atopy Clear pattern on concurrent viral URTI Clear story of normality between episodes Response to bronchodilators in over 2’s

Episodic viral wheeze � Risk factors for development into atopic phenotype ◦ ◦ FH/personal

Episodic viral wheeze � Risk factors for development into atopic phenotype ◦ ◦ FH/personal history of atopy Premature birth/low birth weight Smoking Bronchiolitis as an infant

Different phenotypes – so what? � Acute management ◦ Salbutamol in under 2’s ◦

Different phenotypes – so what? � Acute management ◦ Salbutamol in under 2’s ◦ Corticosteroids � Long term management � Prognosis

Episodic Viral Wheeze – prognosis � 30 -50% of children have one episode �

Episodic Viral Wheeze – prognosis � 30 -50% of children have one episode � 66% out grow their symptoms before school age � Atopic asthma can start with EVW but often have atopic phenotype and/or FH

Practically � Consider other causes Acute symptoms � Try and identify the phenotype Interval

Practically � Consider other causes Acute symptoms � Try and identify the phenotype Interval symptoms � Draw a time line of wheeze � Manage according to severity and phenotype Symptoms Time

Some more cases…. . � 11 year old boy � Presented ‘exacerbation of asthma’

Some more cases…. . � 11 year old boy � Presented ‘exacerbation of asthma’ � Difficult to control asthma for years � Primary symptom is cough ◦ Wet ◦ Every day ◦ No real relief from inhalers � Some mild SOB, no real wheeze

What are your thoughts? � What else do you want to know?

What are your thoughts? � What else do you want to know?

Further questioning � No FH of atopy � No personal history of atopy �

Further questioning � No FH of atopy � No personal history of atopy � No smoking in family � Always hungry, but still slim

On examination � Sats 91% in air � Increased work of breathing � Hyperinflated

On examination � Sats 91% in air � Increased work of breathing � Hyperinflated � No wheeze, no creps � Clubbed

� CXR: chronic changes � Sweat test – confirmed Cystic fibrosis

� CXR: chronic changes � Sweat test – confirmed Cystic fibrosis

Case 2 � 18 month old child � Well until 13 months � ‘Never

Case 2 � 18 month old child � Well until 13 months � ‘Never been right since’ � Coughs every day, no break in between

Further questioning � Started nursery at 13 months � Recurrent episodes of runny nose

Further questioning � Started nursery at 13 months � Recurrent episodes of runny nose � Wet cough associated with runny nose � Cough beginning to recede after a few weeks � Then further runny nose and cough starts again � Thriving

On examination � Well child � Nasal crusting � Wet cough � Normal chest

On examination � Well child � Nasal crusting � Wet cough � Normal chest shape � Chest clear to auscultation � Recurrent � Reassure � Reassess viral URTI’s in summer months

Cough � Important � Common � OTC physiological reflex (up to 10% children) medicine

Cough � Important � Common � OTC physiological reflex (up to 10% children) medicine – cochrane review

Different cough types � Acute cough � Recurrent acute cough � Persistent none remitting

Different cough types � Acute cough � Recurrent acute cough � Persistent none remitting cough

Acute cough (< 3 weeks ) � Vast majority viral URTI � History and

Acute cough (< 3 weeks ) � Vast majority viral URTI � History and examination important to rule out chronic illness � Consider ◦ ◦ Pertussis Allergy Inhaled foreign body Rarely – presenting feature of serious underlying disorder

When to consider CXR/Referral � Uncertainty � IFB � Possible about diagnosis of pneumonia

When to consider CXR/Referral � Uncertainty � IFB � Possible about diagnosis of pneumonia chronic problem � Prolonged clinical course � True haemoptysis

How to manage acute cough � Antipyretics and fluids as required � Antibiotics not

How to manage acute cough � Antipyretics and fluids as required � Antibiotics not beneficial in absence of signs of pneumonia � Bronchodilators not helpful in children who don’t have asthma � OTC remedies not effective � Macrolide for pertussis � EXPLANATION – reduce future consultations

Chronic cough � Chronic cough > 8 weeks � 3 -8 weeks ‘grey area’

Chronic cough � Chronic cough > 8 weeks � 3 -8 weeks ‘grey area’ ◦ Subacute (post viral) ◦ Pertussis

Differential � Structural � Immunodeficiency � Suppurative (PBB, bronchiectasis) � Recurrent aspiration � Pertussis

Differential � Structural � Immunodeficiency � Suppurative (PBB, bronchiectasis) � Recurrent aspiration � Pertussis � Retained IFB � TB � Bronchcospasm � Intersitial lung disease/cardiac

Differential � Structural � Immunodeficiency � Suppurative (PBB, bronchiectasis) � Recurrent aspiration � Pertussis

Differential � Structural � Immunodeficiency � Suppurative (PBB, bronchiectasis) � Recurrent aspiration � Pertussis � Retained IFB � TB � Bronchcospasm � Intersitial lung disease/cardiac

Persistent Bacterial Bronchitis Conducting airways Respiratory Spaces

Persistent Bacterial Bronchitis Conducting airways Respiratory Spaces

Persistent Bacterial Bronchitis � Increasingly common cause chronic wet cough ◦ Age 5 mo

Persistent Bacterial Bronchitis � Increasingly common cause chronic wet cough ◦ Age 5 mo – 14 years (3 years) � Initial viral trigger ‘vicious circle theory’ ◦ Asthma can also be a trigger ◦ H. Influenzae (NT) & S. Pneumoniae � Prolonged � Is course antibiotics required (diagnosis) entirely curable � Untreated may progress to bronchiectasis

Differentiating PBB from Asthma Symptom PBB Asthma Age Typically < 6 yrs Typically >

Differentiating PBB from Asthma Symptom PBB Asthma Age Typically < 6 yrs Typically > 5 yrs Cough type Wet (‘smokers’) Dry Cough duration Persistent Intermittent Change with posture Yes No SOB With coughing With exercise Wheeze ‘Rattle’ Genuine wheeze Response to antibiotics Dramatic (> 2 weeks) None (natural history)

Assessment � Consider different types of cough

Assessment � Consider different types of cough

Types of cough � Barking ◦ large airway � Honking ◦ psychogenic � Paroxysmal

Types of cough � Barking ◦ large airway � Honking ◦ psychogenic � Paroxysmal ◦ pertussis � Chronic fruity ◦ suppurative � Dry/tight ◦ bronchospasm

History � Nature of the cough ◦ Time, diurnal and sleep, sputum, wheeze �

History � Nature of the cough ◦ Time, diurnal and sleep, sputum, wheeze � Age of onset � Feeding relation � IFB? � Relieving (beta agonist, ab’s) � Cigarette smoke � FH

Red flags � When would you refer (when have you referred? )

Red flags � When would you refer (when have you referred? )

Red flags – specialist referral � Neonatal onset � Chronic wet cough � Cough

Red flags – specialist referral � Neonatal onset � Chronic wet cough � Cough after choking episode � Neuro-developmental problems � Chest wall deformity � Recurrent pneumonia � Growth faltering � Clubbing

Approach to management � Watchful waiting – 6 -8 weeks � Removal of aeroallergens

Approach to management � Watchful waiting – 6 -8 weeks � Removal of aeroallergens � Trial anti-asthma treatment � Trial antibiotics for PBB

Summary � Respiratory paediatrics is fascinating! � …. . and relevant to everyday practice

Summary � Respiratory paediatrics is fascinating! � …. . and relevant to everyday practice � Think of other causes of wheeze � Identify asthma phenotypes � Classify different cough types � Consider PBB � Refer if unsure

Thank you.

Thank you.