Survival and Identity David Lewiss Response To Parfit

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Survival and Identity David Lewis’s Response To Parfit

Survival and Identity David Lewis’s Response To Parfit

Lewis Defends Neo‐Lockeanism • What matters for survival is mental continuity and connectedness •

Lewis Defends Neo‐Lockeanism • What matters for survival is mental continuity and connectedness • These are relations between total psychological states that occur at stages that exist at different times such that: o Change (difference in states) is gradual rather than sudden o Changes are a result of the lawful causal dependence of one state on another • Mental continuity and connectness are relations between (momentary) stages that are temporal parts of persons; personal identity is a relation between the extended 4‐dimensional ‘worms’ of which they are parts.

If a job is worth doing, One Persons Modus Ponens is another’s Modus Tollens

If a job is worth doing, One Persons Modus Ponens is another’s Modus Tollens it’s worth doing well. Modus Ponens Modus Tollens

Neo‐Lockeanism: Pro and Con Arguments Parfit: For Neo-Lockeanism Against Neo-Lockeanism 1. If our criterion

Neo‐Lockeanism: Pro and Con Arguments Parfit: For Neo-Lockeanism Against Neo-Lockeanism 1. If our criterion for personal identity is psychological then identity isn’t what matters for survival. 2. Our criterion for personal identity is psychological. 2. Identity is what matters for survival. 3. Therefore, identity is not what matters for survival. 3. Therefore, our criterion for personal identity is not psychological

Identity and R‐Relatedness • We have a discrepancy of formal character between identity and

Identity and R‐Relatedness • We have a discrepancy of formal character between identity and any suitable relation of mental continuity and connectedness. • He who says that what matters in survival is a relation of mental continuity and connectedness is speaking of a relation among more or less momentary person‐ stages, or time‐slices of continuant persons, or persons‐at‐times. • He who says that what matters in survival is identity…[is] speaking of identity among temporally extended continuant persons with stages at different times. • It is pointless to compare the formal character of identity with the formal character of the relation that matters in survival.

The Relation Between Tail and Trunk • Is not identity but… • The spatial

The Relation Between Tail and Trunk • Is not identity but… • The spatial unity relation for elephant o Spatio‐temporal continuity o Causal connectedness in one organized system

The R‐Relation and the I‐Relation • R-Relation: the psychological relation on person‐stages that matters

The R‐Relation and the I‐Relation • R-Relation: the psychological relation on person‐stages that matters in survival. • I-Relation: the relation that holds between the several stages of a continuant person. • Continuant Person: a maximal I-interrelated aggregate of person‐stages o Each stage of which is I‐related to every other stage of the person and o The person is not part of any larger I‐interrelated aggregate • Claim: Something is a continuant person iff it is a maximal R‐related aggregate, i. e. the I‐relation is the R‐relation: that is to say, identity is what matters.

So why distinguish them in the first place? • Because we went to put

So why distinguish them in the first place? • Because we went to put the question of whether the R‐relation can be criterial for personal identity • Comparing the R‐relation with identity won’t work because personal identity doesn’t hold on person‐stages. • The I‐relation by definition holds on stages of the same person since it’s defined as the relation that holds on a pair of stages if and only if they’re temporal parts of the same person • So the question of whether holding psychological connectedness/continuity is what matters is compatible with holding that identity is what matters is the question of whether the R‐relation is the I‐relation.

The I‐Relation may be one‐many ‘It would be wrong to read my definition of

The I‐Relation may be one‐many ‘It would be wrong to read my definition of the I‐relation as saying that person‐stages S 1 and S 2 are I‐related if and only if the continuant person of whom S 1 is a stage and the continuant person of whom S 2 is a stage are identical. The definite articles require the presupposition that I have just questioned. We should substitute the indefinite article: S 1 and S 2 are I‐related if and only if a continuant person of whom S 1 is a stage and a continuant person of whom S 2 is a stage are identical. (p. 61) More simply: if and only if there is some one continuant person of whom both S 1 and S 2 are stages. ’ ‘The’ implies uniqueness would preclude fission and fusion where the same stage belongs to more than one person‐‐cases Lewis needs to deal with!

Fission and Fusion When mental continuity is not one‐to‐one

Fission and Fusion When mental continuity is not one‐to‐one

Fission RR RR RR RRRR R R • A stage may be R‐related to

Fission RR RR RR RRRR R R • A stage may be R‐related to stages that are not R‐related to one‐another • Given such branching cases, the R‐relation is not transitive!

Identity and I‐relatedness • If the R‐relation is the I‐relation can’t be transitive either

Identity and I‐relatedness • If the R‐relation is the I‐relation can’t be transitive either • But identity is transitive • No problem: person-stages S 1 and S 2 are I-related iff a continuant person of whom S 1 is a part is a stage of a continuant person of whom S 2 is a state are identical.

The I‐relation is not transitive S 3 S 2 S 1 • S 1

The I‐relation is not transitive S 3 S 2 S 1 • S 1 is I‐related to S 2 because there’s a person of which both are stages and • S 1 is I‐related to S 3 for the same reason • But there’s no person of which S 2 and S 3 are stages so S 2 and S 3 aren’t I‐related to one another!

Synchronic Counting • Counting how many people around at a given time • In

Synchronic Counting • Counting how many people around at a given time • In fission cases continuant persons overlap (like some roads!) so before fission there will be two continuant persons sharing a stage and… • From the timeless perspective, in a fission case, two people all along! • Lewis solution: synchronic counting is not by identity but by ‘tensed identity’, a derivative relation among continuants induced by identity among stages • Tensed Identity: C 1 and C 2 are identical-at-a-time-t iff they both exist at t and their stages at t are identical.

Different People Identical‐at‐t t’ t S 3 S 2 S 1 Jones • There

Different People Identical‐at‐t t’ t S 3 S 2 S 1 Jones • There are two people at all times • They are identical‐at‐t--and neither they nor anyone else can tell them apart at t! • The name ‘Jones’ is ambiguous

Tensed Identity • Is this ok? Some hold (controversially) that identity is the counting

Tensed Identity • Is this ok? Some hold (controversially) that identity is the counting relation… • Lewis: A counting relation has at least to be an equivalence relation: reflexive, symmetrical, and transitive‐‐and tensed identity is. • Lewis: A counting relation must be an indiscernibility relation…for at least some significant class of properties o Identity‐at‐t is an indiscernibility relation for those properties of a person determined by his stage at t

What, at t, will be true about Jones? Brown‐Jones cleans out the bank account

What, at t, will be true about Jones? Brown‐Jones cleans out the bank account and flies to Italy. Spends rest of life living well in Florence Retirement savings gone, Smith‐Jones retires to Chula Vista S 3 S 2 S 1 Jones • Jones will live in Chula Vista or Jones will live in Florence? • Both‐‐since ‘Jones’ is ambiguous. ‘Jones will life in Chula Vista and Florence’ will not be true!

Longevity When mental connectedness fades away

Longevity When mental connectedness fades away

Is survival a matter of degree? • The complex fission‐fusion case considered by Parfit

Is survival a matter of degree? • The complex fission‐fusion case considered by Parfit suggests that psychological continuity may be a matter of degree. • Lewis suggests that in the Methusalah case psychological continuity may be a matter of degree also. { {{ { time

Methusalah (not to scale) { { time Consider Methuselah. At the age of 100

Methusalah (not to scale) { { time Consider Methuselah. At the age of 100 he still remembers his childhood. But new memories crowed out the old. At the age of 150 he has hardly any memories that go back before his twentieth year. At the age of 200 he has hardly any memories that go back before his seventieth year…When he dies at the age of 969 he has hardly any memories that go beyond his 839 th year.

More Overlap than in Fission Cases • Any two stages of Methusalah separated by

More Overlap than in Fission Cases • Any two stages of Methusalah separated by no more than 137 years are R‐related • Any two stages separated by 137 years or more are not R‐related. • Segments of Methuselah are R‐interrelated iff no more than 137 years apart. • Since the R‐relation and I‐relation are the same, all and only segments exactly 137 years long are maximal I‐interrelated aggregates, i. e. continuant persons. • There are infinitely many overlapping persons! • Lewis: ‘Tensed identity to the rescue once more’

Degree Personal identity is a matter of degree because personhood is

Degree Personal identity is a matter of degree because personhood is

Survival a Matter of Degree • In Parfit’s case of fusion the persons involved

Survival a Matter of Degree • In Parfit’s case of fusion the persons involved (considered as 4‐dimensional worms remember) have less personhood than in ordinary cases. • R‐relatedness is some unspecified combination of not transitive and continuity so may fade away (continuity not sufficient!) • Compare to ordinary case of diminished personhood involving ‘deficient stages’. • ’If we say that a continuant person is an aggregate of R‐interrelated person‐ stages, it is clear that personhood admits of degree’. • [Could this be a reason not to say a continuant person is an aggregate of stages? ]

Degrees of Personhood • Delineation of boundary: stringency requirement for 2 stages being R‐related

Degrees of Personhood • Delineation of boundary: stringency requirement for 2 stages being R‐related is set. • Determines both which aggregates are R‐related and which are maximal o Degree of personhood is a function of degree of R‐relatedness and degree of maximality o There’s a trade‐off between R‐relatedness and maximality: the more stringent the delineation the fewer stages get in so those how do have higher maximality but lower degree of R‐relatedness relative to standard. • Wherever we set the boundary any 2 stages have same degree of personhood!

Degrees of R-Relatedness and Maximality D 1: More Stringent Delineation Person under D 1

Degrees of R-Relatedness and Maximality D 1: More Stringent Delineation Person under D 1 Person is R‐interrelated to a low degree (relative to D 1 requirement) but maximal to a high degree D 2: Less Stringent Deliniation Person under D 2 Person is R‐interrelated to a high degree (relative to D 2 requirement) but maximal to a low degree Moral: It’s a wash! Person has personhood to the same degree under either regime!

Perry’s Treatment of Fission And then there were three…

Perry’s Treatment of Fission And then there were three…

Postscript Two Minds With But a Single Thought

Postscript Two Minds With But a Single Thought

A Case of Semi‐Failed Teletransportation • Problem: Eartha’s pre‐fission desire, in virtue of stage

A Case of Semi‐Failed Teletransportation • Problem: Eartha’s pre‐fission desire, in virtue of stage e’s desiring, to get to Mars is not satisfied since she, a 4 -d worm, does not include a stage on Mars. • Lewis Response: ‘There is a limit to how commonsensical one’s desires can possibly be under the peculiar circumstances of stage‐sharing. • Comment: maybe the problem is understanding people as 4‐d worms Martha post‐fission stage m on Mars Eartha pre‐fission stage e on Earth Cohabitants Branch Line Case

In Defense of Stages Lewis defends the four‐dimensionalist ontology of instantaneous stages

In Defense of Stages Lewis defends the four‐dimensionalist ontology of instantaneous stages

Worms or Stages? worm stage A stage is a “temporal slice” of a worm

Worms or Stages? worm stage A stage is a “temporal slice” of a worm stages • Assuming 4‐dimensionalism, there is a further question: are ordinary objects, including people, 4‐d ‘worms’ that have instantaneous stages as their temporal parts or are they themselves instantaneous stages?

The End

The End