Fluid Clinical Scenarios Dr Supraja Chandrasekar MRCPCH UK

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Fluid- Clinical Scenarios Dr Supraja Chandrasekar MRCPCH [UK], Fellowship Paed Crit Care [IAP] Consultant

Fluid- Clinical Scenarios Dr Supraja Chandrasekar MRCPCH [UK], Fellowship Paed Crit Care [IAP] Consultant Paediatric Intensivist

Greetings From PEOPLE TREE Hospitals ! • 5 locations in Bengaluru • Paediatric Department

Greetings From PEOPLE TREE Hospitals ! • 5 locations in Bengaluru • Paediatric Department

Body Fluid Compartments Intracellular ~ 2/3 total body fluid Vascular Extracellular ~ 1/3 total

Body Fluid Compartments Intracellular ~ 2/3 total body fluid Vascular Extracellular ~ 1/3 total body fluid interstitial Intracellular

Body Fluid Compartments

Body Fluid Compartments

Maintenance Fluid Balance between competing goals Correct § § Body water loss Dehydration Minimise

Maintenance Fluid Balance between competing goals Correct § § Body water loss Dehydration Minimise § Fluid overload § Hyponatraemia § Interstitial oedema

Case 1 • 10 kg Male infant 18 hrs post abdominal surgery in SICU

Case 1 • 10 kg Male infant 18 hrs post abdominal surgery in SICU only on maintenance IV fluids-Isolyte P at 40 ml/Hr was continuously crying, mother upset, resident given pain relief [Tramadol]. • After an hour baby had up-rolling of eyes with twitching of limbs and brief unconsciousness. • What should be done? • Glu 120 Na 116 K 3. 6 Bicarb 26

Hyponatraemia SO What ? § ALL children are more prone to cerebral oedema caused

Hyponatraemia SO What ? § ALL children are more prone to cerebral oedema caused by hyponatraemia § symptoms < 125 -128 mmol/L § more rapid onset / evolution § Aetiology § Reduced renal excretion of water (ADH) § IV administration of electrolyte-free water § Inadequate electrolyte monitoring

Dreaded Cerebral Edema

Dreaded Cerebral Edema

Acute Hyponatraemia

Acute Hyponatraemia

Clinical Features • Cerebral edema • Acute- herniation • Subacute • irritability lethargy anorexia

Clinical Features • Cerebral edema • Acute- herniation • Subacute • irritability lethargy anorexia confusion • Muscle cramps weakness • Headache seizures coma

Management • Treat all severely symptomatic-[ CNS symptoms] RAPIDLY • Acute + Symptomatic •

Management • Treat all severely symptomatic-[ CNS symptoms] RAPIDLY • Acute + Symptomatic • Bolus- 3 ml/kg of 3% NS in 1 hrs • Raises S Na by 2 -3 m. Eq

Management • Principles • Treat acute symptoms fast • Then assess fluids • First

Management • Principles • Treat acute symptoms fast • Then assess fluids • First correct any fluid deficits then Electrolyte disturbances • GO SLOW in correction • 10 m. Eq/L/Day

Management • Chronic= Slow correction • Correct based on cause not formulae • Loss-

Management • Chronic= Slow correction • Correct based on cause not formulae • Loss- replace m. Eq=0. 6 x Wt x ( 130 - Obs ) over 24 - 72 hrs • 1 m. Eq of 3%NACl= 0. 5 m. Eq

Hyponatraemia- Can we prevent this? • Cause of Hyponatraemia ? • Hypotonic Fluids •

Hyponatraemia- Can we prevent this? • Cause of Hyponatraemia ? • Hypotonic Fluids • Prevention • AVOID Too much water; • AVOID Too less Salt

Prevention • Avoid too much water

Prevention • Avoid too much water

Original Basis of Fluid Therapy Original Concepts * • Traditional IV fluid and electrolyte

Original Basis of Fluid Therapy Original Concepts * • Traditional IV fluid and electrolyte requirement calculations were based on weight and arrived at ideal Hypotonic fluid 4 -2 -1 Rule Holliday MA, Segar WE Pediatrics 1957; Taylor, et al BMJ RCPCH Volume 89(5), May 2004

Maintenance Fluid 4 -2 -1 Rule 4 ml/kg/hr for the first 10 kg 2

Maintenance Fluid 4 -2 -1 Rule 4 ml/kg/hr for the first 10 kg 2 ml/kg/hr for the second 10 kg 1 ml/kg/hr for every kg thereafter = 100 ml/kg/day for the first 10 kg = 50 ml/kg/day for the second 10 kg = 20 ml/kg/day for every kg thereafter

Current concepts Challenged * • Original Calculations are not based on sick children •

Current concepts Challenged * • Original Calculations are not based on sick children • Decreased energy requirements • Catabolism- endogenous water • ADH-osmotic + non osmotic stimuli • Highly susceptible to fluid shifts

Causes of Increased ADH Secretion § Non-osmotic § Hypovolemia § Disease § CNS §

Causes of Increased ADH Secretion § Non-osmotic § Hypovolemia § Disease § CNS § pulmonary § Iatrogenic § Surgery/anaesth § Pain § Nausea § Drugs-narcotics Criteria for SIADH ? ? § No hypovolaemia or oedema § § § Hyponatraemia (< 135) plasma osmolality (< 275) Urine > plasma osmolality Urine Na+ > 50 mmol/L Normal major organ function

Shann in Oh’s ICU Manual 7 th Edition 4 -2 -1 Rule Table 2

Shann in Oh’s ICU Manual 7 th Edition 4 -2 -1 Rule Table 2 Approximate intravenous fluid requirements for children (ml per hour) Active Sick Intubated 3 12 6 4 5 20 10 7 7 30 14 10 10 40 20 14 15 50 25 17 20 60 30 21 Weight in kg 25 30 40 50 65 70 80 90 35 40 45 55 25 28 32 40 60 70 95 100 60 70 45 50

What is Osmolarity &Tonicity ? • Osmolarity – Solute /L of Solvent independent of

What is Osmolarity &Tonicity ? • Osmolarity – Solute /L of Solvent independent of membrane • Osmolarity determined by permeant [ Eg Urea ] and non permeant solutes [ Na ] • 285 -295 m. Eq/L • P Osm = 2 Na + Glu/18 + BUN/2. 8 1 -Expert Opinion on Drug Safety. 3(1): 67 -73, 2004 Jan. Hypotonic intravenous solutions in Manchester UK, Taylor, et al BMJ RCPCHVolume 89(5), May 2004

What is Osmolarity &Tonicity ? • Tonicity - the total concentration of solutes that

What is Osmolarity &Tonicity ? • Tonicity - the total concentration of solutes that exert an osmotic force across a membrane in vivo. Effective Osmolarity • Sodium is most important determinant of tonicity and thus movement of water across membranes • Movement of water across cell membrane determined by tonicity

What is osmolarity & Tonicity? Osmolality Tonicity Permeable Non Permeable In Vitro In vivo

What is osmolarity & Tonicity? Osmolality Tonicity Permeable Non Permeable In Vitro In vivo Solute/Kg solvent Decides which direction water moves

What happens to cells in different tonicities?

What happens to cells in different tonicities?

Which to choose and why?

Which to choose and why?

Fluid Na K NS 150 Cl Dex Lact Ca 150 Osm Tonic 308 Iso

Fluid Na K NS 150 Cl Dex Lact Ca 150 Osm Tonic 308 Iso DNS 150 50 586 Iso N/2 75 75 50 432 Hypo Iso P 26 20 21 50 RL 130 4 109 - - 346 Hypo 28 3 274 Iso 10 D 100 Hypo 5 D 50 Hypo

Why is Tonicity clinically relevant ? • 5% dextrose = osmolarity as plasma (286)

Why is Tonicity clinically relevant ? • 5% dextrose = osmolarity as plasma (286) but is rapidly metabolised in blood to water. In vivo tonicity = 0 as it contains no salt or other active osmole • Isolyte P= 1 L 0. 18% saline in 4% dextrose 1/5 th (200 ml) is isotonic to plasma. The remaining 800 ml is electrolyte free water enters ICF –disastrous in CNS • Hypotonic fluids especially for sick & postoperative children causes iatrogenic complications= hyponatraemia and harmful fluid shifts

 • So…. • Na is the only factor in IVF that determines how

• So…. • Na is the only factor in IVF that determines how much free water will shift in and out of the vascular space--Tonicity • Tonicity-single most imp determinant of fluid shifts - role of sodium

Maintenance Fluids Take Home Points • Always use ISOTONIC fluids for Maintenance in SICK

Maintenance Fluids Take Home Points • Always use ISOTONIC fluids for Maintenance in SICK children • Consider RESTRICTION of fluids as there is SIADH to prevent Hypo. Na • Always MONITOR children on IVF; both Electrolytes/Glucose and IO

Maintenance Rx in Sick Surgical ICU children • Main Considerations to be taken are

Maintenance Rx in Sick Surgical ICU children • Main Considerations to be taken are • Anaesthetic and drug side effects • Risk of Non Osmolar ADH release [ 2/3 restrict] • Very sensitive to Fluid shifts Eg raised ICP • Electrolyte & Glu status – Na/K • Consider underlying disease Eg Renal failure- 40 ml/m 2 + UO,

Case 2 • 2 year old child, came with history of passing excess watery

Case 2 • 2 year old child, came with history of passing excess watery stools for 3 days. Drowsy, pulses feeble, HR 196/min, Blood Pressure not recordable, cold mottled peripheries, Rapid shallow breathing, sunken eyes and doughy skin with reduced turgor.

Case 2 • What do we do next?

Case 2 • What do we do next?

Approach- Which one is right? • A Shock- Rapid Volume Replacement ? • B

Approach- Which one is right? • A Shock- Rapid Volume Replacement ? • B Dehydration Slow volume replacement ? • C Hypernatraemic Dehydration- Very cautious calculated volume replacement ?

Assessment Shock Vs Dehydration Shock • Rapid loss of intravascular volume • Peripheral shut

Assessment Shock Vs Dehydration Shock • Rapid loss of intravascular volume • Peripheral shut down-cold mottled peripheries with anuria/oliguria, Low BP. Dehydration • Slow loss from interstitial sites • Sunken eyes/fontanelle, loss of skin turgor, Wt change, Tachycardia, poor pulses, CRT >3 sec Hypernatraemia & Dehydration • Mainly Intracellular loss • Doughy , sclerema , absence of s/o severe dehydration

Resuscitate… quickly! Vascular interstitial Intracellular

Resuscitate… quickly! Vascular interstitial Intracellular

Rehydrate and Maintain… slowly! Vascular interstitial Intracellular

Rehydrate and Maintain… slowly! Vascular interstitial Intracellular

Management Shock Vs Dehydration In shock • Rapid replacement of IV volume • 20

Management Shock Vs Dehydration In shock • Rapid replacement of IV volume • 20 ml/Kg rapid bolus over 5 -15 mins • In hypotensive [decompenssted] shock give it over 5 mins by pressure pump/pull push

Management Shock Vs Dehydration In Dehydration • Slow replacement of interstitial space • Greater

Management Shock Vs Dehydration In Dehydration • Slow replacement of interstitial space • Greater propensity for fluid and electrolyte disturbances • 100 ml/kg over 3 hrs * • 30 ml/Kg over ½ hr reassess no improvement repeat 30 ml/Kg • 70 ml/Kg-over next 2. 5 hrs • *Double the time in small infants

Type of Fluid? • Any replacement fluid should be ISOTONIC. • Has to remain

Type of Fluid? • Any replacement fluid should be ISOTONIC. • Has to remain in intravascular compartment • Cause min fluid shifts across cell membrane

Intravascular Volume Resuscitation § Give ENOUGH !! § Bolus § 5 ml/kg or §

Intravascular Volume Resuscitation § Give ENOUGH !! § Bolus § 5 ml/kg or § 10 ml/kg or § 20 ml/kg Colloids vs Crystalloids ? § Give isotonic crystalloid § Colloid § § Worse outcome in trauma ? Better outcome in sepsis Higher cost Risk of anaphylaxis & infection

Replacing the Deficit and Ongoing Losses § Understand where the losses have come from

Replacing the Deficit and Ongoing Losses § Understand where the losses have come from § Which fluid ? § IV crystalloid or ORS by mouth § How much ? § Actual weight loss over 48 -72 hours § What endpoints ? § Hydration status: clinical examination

Summary § Correct hypovolaemia (reduced vascular volume) with rapid isotonic fluid boluses until patient

Summary § Correct hypovolaemia (reduced vascular volume) with rapid isotonic fluid boluses until patient improved § Restrict maintenance IV fluids to 50 -60% and § Rehydrate Replace ongoing losses (e. g. diarrhoea) maintain… § Give glucose-containing isotonic IV fluids for maintenance (e. g. 0. 9% Saline with 5% Glucose) slowly! § Monitor regularly Resuscitate… § Beware warning signs of hyponatraemia quickly! § Enteral feeding as early as possible

Case 3 • 2 month old baby operated for NEC with intestinal perforation was

Case 3 • 2 month old baby operated for NEC with intestinal perforation was on TPN ; multiple antibiotics & on ½ DNS. • On POD 1 noted to have HR 160/m but CRT<2 sec/perfusion good. UO 4 ml/Kg/Hr. Na 146 K 2. 8 Ca 8. 8 • Resident changes IVF to Isolyte P • POD 2 UO still 6 ml/Kg/hr, baby more limp and HR 170. Na 150, K 2. 4 Ca 9. Kcl correction given.

 • 4 hrs later K 2. 8. Baby same Repeat bolus K given

• 4 hrs later K 2. 8. Baby same Repeat bolus K given • 6 hrs later baby has sudden cardiac arrest not responding to standard measures. • K 3. 1 Na 156 Ca 8

What went wrong? • • • Be alert when baby is on TPN Look

What went wrong? • • • Be alert when baby is on TPN Look beyond Na /K………Ca/Mg K<3 is significant needs correction in PICU Changing IVF type will not suffice 0. 5 -1 m. Eq /Kg of KCL IV over 1 hour with ECG monitoring • Rising Na with falling K and High UO —Nephrogenic DI due to Hypokalemia • Following correction monitor closely [ 2 -4 hrly till normal] think of adding K in IVF there after

Role of K/Mg • When K+ NOT responding to std bolus ALWAYS r/o Low

Role of K/Mg • When K+ NOT responding to std bolus ALWAYS r/o Low Mg • Low K/Mg is dangerous; ----Arrhythmia • 0. 2 ml/kg of 25% Mg S over 1 hour with ECG monitoring

Case 4 • 4 month old male child, with breathing difficulty of three days

Case 4 • 4 month old male child, with breathing difficulty of three days duration • On arrival • Lethargic, interaction minimal • Laboured Breathing with s/c and i/c retractions • Has mottled skin with peripheral cyanosis 9/9/2020 48

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • • Airway is clear, Breathing @60

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • • Airway is clear, Breathing @60 /min, S/c recessions and Intermittent grunting+, Fine crackles b/l, Saturations – 89% initially, 100 % after oxygen 9/9/2020 • HR 180 bpm, NSR, • Central pulses weak • Peripheral pulses thready, • CFT 4 seconds, • Extremities cold, • BP 60/30, • Liver 4 cm BCM 49

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • Lethargic child, with respiratory distress •

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • Lethargic child, with respiratory distress • What fluids: DNS / others ? ; How much? 9/9/2020 50

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • • • Start fluids – saline

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • • • Start fluids – saline 20 ml/Kg, Grunting worsens, Spa. O 2 – 98% on Oxygen No improvement in pulses and CFT BP 56/30 Hepatomegaly Lethargic Blood glucose 70 mg % Blood gas : p. H 7. 25, PCo 2 20, HCO 3 20 meq/lit, Pa. O 2 170%. Lactate 4. 9 mmol/L 9/9/2020 51

Case-2: 4 m male …X Ray chest 9/9/2020 Pedicon 2017: L N Taneja 52

Case-2: 4 m male …X Ray chest 9/9/2020 Pedicon 2017: L N Taneja 52

Case contd. . 4 m male • Cardiogenic hypotensive shock, did not improve with

Case contd. . 4 m male • Cardiogenic hypotensive shock, did not improve with fluids, with respiratory distress • Problems to be addressed • Vaso-constricted shock • Dilated heart • Impending Respiratory failure 9/9/2020 53

Goals for treatment of cardiogenic shock • Normalise perfusion • Since myocardium is damaged,

Goals for treatment of cardiogenic shock • Normalise perfusion • Since myocardium is damaged, flogging a tired horse is not going to work! Hence decrease the workload • Support / assist breathing , take care of fever • Cautious analgesia – impairs endogenous stress response that is helping perfusion 9/9/2020 54

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • Arrange for a ventilation • Slow

Case 2 contd. . 4 m male • Arrange for a ventilation • Slow IV fluids if there is a reason of decreased preload as in poor feeding, vomiting or other losses, look for over load • A drug that • Decreases the after load for the failing heart by vasodilatation to support forward flow of blood and tissue perfusion • Augments the contractility? • Choices - • Inodilators (PDEI) Vasodilators • Catecholamines Cardiac glycosides 9/9/2020 55

Case 5 • 4 year old; shown for respiratory distress 2 days Repeated nebulisations

Case 5 • 4 year old; shown for respiratory distress 2 days Repeated nebulisations drowsy • HR 180; RR 48; Sats 92% BP 77 / 55; cool peripheries • GCS 10; Ph 6. 99; p. Co 2 19 BE -22 Bicarb 10 • What next? GRBS >500 mg/dl

I know the protocol…. But…. . • • What is the estimated fluid deficit?

I know the protocol…. But…. . • • What is the estimated fluid deficit? Is there shock or only dehydration? Fluid bolus or no? Insulin bolus followed by infusion?

Cerebral Edema- The Crux

Cerebral Edema- The Crux

Literature • Cerebral Edema [CE] the dreaded complication blamed on increased and faster fluids

Literature • Cerebral Edema [CE] the dreaded complication blamed on increased and faster fluids and boluses • Never give fluid bolus • Correct it VERY slow 48 to 72 hrs • Literature evaluating fluid infusion in DKA suffers from low sample sizes, lack of comparator groups, and retrospective nature • -----OLD literature !

CE the Evidence • CE occurs at presentation even before Rx [ MRI/CT] •

CE the Evidence • CE occurs at presentation even before Rx [ MRI/CT] • The severe form of CE is rare and recognised clinically • A variety of mechanisms beyond osmolar shifts CE, including vasogenic and cytotoxic causes. • Several studies with comparator groups suggest IV fluids are not associated with CE, though severity of DKA may be associated including the degree of acidosis and dehydration.

1] Fluid Challenges- Estimation of Dehydration/Shock • Shock can occur although rare • Shock

1] Fluid Challenges- Estimation of Dehydration/Shock • Shock can occur although rare • Shock masked – BP well preserved due to catecholamines and hyper osmolarity • UO cannot be used as a marker of good perfusion Hyperglycaemia driven. Increased Urine- until critical renal hypoperfusion • Dehydration estimation is difficult • Mostly overestimated fluid deficit • Weight loss is reliable • Current literature 5 -8%

Fluid Management • Shock is rare 10 ml/Kg/1 Hr repeat once; isotonic/NS- SAFE •

Fluid Management • Shock is rare 10 ml/Kg/1 Hr repeat once; isotonic/NS- SAFE • Dehydration 5 -8 % deficit replace over 48 hrs • Total Fluids= [Deficit-bolus] + Maintenance 48 hrs • Total fluids rarely exceeds 1. 5 -2 X maintenance

Fluid Management…. • Use only isotonic fluids 4 -6 hrs [ NS/RL] • Meticulous

Fluid Management…. • Use only isotonic fluids 4 -6 hrs [ NS/RL] • Meticulous monitoring-- fall in osmolarity and Na titrate fluids-may need to use 3 % Nacl to counter fall in Glu/Osm • No replacement of Urine loss • Add K+ to all rehydration fluid after r/o Renal Failure • When Glu <300 add Dextrose DNS

Fluids in DKA- Take Home Points • Use bolus fluids 10 ml/Kg over 1

Fluids in DKA- Take Home Points • Use bolus fluids 10 ml/Kg over 1 hr if Shock +can repeat • SLOW correction replace deficit over 48 hrs [Vs 24 hrs] • Estimate deficit has lowered to about 6 -8% [ Vs 10 -15 %] • Strictly avoiding Bicarbonate • Use Isotonic fluids Monitor Na rise • Think of Insulin AFTER Fluids and Electrolyte. No bolus • Actively watch for objective signs of CE • Continuous rigorous monitoring –Glu Na GCS

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