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Case Study – Casillas Family

Case Study – Casillas Family

Casillas Family Info Sophia Jose • • • Resident: CA Age: 29 1 kid

Casillas Family Info Sophia Jose • • • Resident: CA Age: 29 1 kid (3 years old) Education: JD Job: US Department of Justice Current Income: $145, 000 • 2%/yr increase • Has 403 B & 457 B • Currently in Standard 10 year repayment: $786/mo • Have not filed this year’s tax • • • Resident: CA Age: 27 Currently trying for 2 nd child Education: JD Job: Associate @ private firm Current Income: $65, 000 • Expects a 3%/yr raise • $85, 000 in 3 years • $125, 000 in 10 yrs • Would like to start her own practice one day • Currently ina 30 year extended

Casillas Family Goals • Short Term: – Pregnant with a child this year –

Casillas Family Goals • Short Term: – Pregnant with a child this year – Purchase a Home • Medium Term: – Jose get’s promotion – Sophia starts a practice • Long Term – Tax savings – Kids College – Retirement Concerns • Short Term: – “We owe a nearly half a million dollars and are having another kid…we’re crazy” – “It’s hard to think about anything other than the debt” • Medium Term: – Jose, “I’m hoping to pay off my loans so Sophia can start her practice, should I refinance? ” – Sophia, “I’ll pay off my loans when I’m making more money” • Long Term: – “One day we will be make 400 k/yr, but need to be tax savvy with it”

Jose Loans

Jose Loans

Sophia’s Loans

Sophia’s Loans

California Poverty Lines 2018 Persons in family/household Poverty guideline 1 $12, 140 2 $16,

California Poverty Lines 2018 Persons in family/household Poverty guideline 1 $12, 140 2 $16, 460 3 $20, 780 4 $25, 100 5 $29, 420 6 $33, 740 7 $38, 060 8 $42, 380 For families/households with more than 8 persons, add $4, 320 for each additional person.

Loans At A Glance What Observations Do You See • IDR Repayment Plan Eligibility?

Loans At A Glance What Observations Do You See • IDR Repayment Plan Eligibility? • Direct Consolidations? • Employment Status? • Tax Filing Status? • Debt to Incomes?

Observations • Jose has no loans before 10/1/2007 or after 10/1/2011 • Jose has

Observations • Jose has no loans before 10/1/2007 or after 10/1/2011 • Jose has only Direct Loans – Eligible: ICR, IBR, REPAYE • Sophia has no loans before 10/1/2007 and loans after 10/1/2011 • Sophia has already completed a Direct Consolidation – Eligible for: ICR, IBR, PAYE, & REPAYE

What Repayment Plans is Best? • Is it the same for both of them?

What Repayment Plans is Best? • Is it the same for both of them? • What affect would tax preparation have on payment? • What pre-tax contributions could improve repayment options? – Who should contribute and how much? • How does this fit with the clients overall financial goals?

I Feel Like Were Going To Do Math

I Feel Like Were Going To Do Math

Allocation of Joint Payments First we need to determine the allocation of payments based

Allocation of Joint Payments First we need to determine the allocation of payments based on joint income. • Sophia’s Balance: $284, 595 • Jose’s Balance: $67, 941 • Total Balance: $352, 536 – Sophia’s % of total: – Jose’s % of total: 80. 6% 19. 4%

REPAYE Amount • Joint income: • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • •

REPAYE Amount • Joint income: • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: – Sofia Payment X 80. 6% – Jose’s Payment X 19. 4% $210, 000 $18, 210 $19, 440 $172, 350 10% $17, 235 $1, 436. 25 $1, 157. 62/mo $278. 63/mo

PAYE Amount • Joint income: • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • •

PAYE Amount • Joint income: • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: – Sofia Payment X 80. 6% – Jose’s Payment X 19. 4% $210, 000 $18, 210 $19, 440 $172, 350 10% $17, 235 $1, 436. 25 $1, 157. 62/mo N/A

IBR Amount • Joint income: • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • •

IBR Amount • Joint income: • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: – Sofia Payment X 80. 6% – Jose’s Payment X 19. 4% $210, 000 $18, 210 $19, 440 $172, 350 15% $25. 852. 50 $2, 154. 38 $1, 736. 43/mo $417. 95/mo

Community Property State • Filing taxes married separate will required community property allocation of

Community Property State • Filing taxes married separate will required community property allocation of income • Form 8958 (IRS PUB 555) – Jose AGI: $105, 000 vs current pay of $145, 000 – Sophia AGI: $105, 00 vs current pay of $65, 00 • Will reduce the tax costs of filing separately • Provides an additional documentation source – AGI or Current income(ADI)?

I Need To Know Tax Stuff?

I Need To Know Tax Stuff?

REPAYE Amount • Joint income – ($105, 000+$65, 000): $170, 000 – 3 additional

REPAYE Amount • Joint income – ($105, 000+$65, 000): $170, 000 – 3 additional $19, 440 • Poverty line Borrower: • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: – Sofia Payment X 80. 6% – Jose’s Payment X 19. 4% $18, 210 $132, 346 10% $13, 234. 60 $1, 102. 88 $888. 94/mo $213. 96/mo

PAYE Amount - Sophia • Separate income – $65, 000(ADI): • Poverty line Borrower:

PAYE Amount - Sophia • Separate income – $65, 000(ADI): • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: $65, 000 $18, 210 $19, 440 $27, 350 10% $2, 735 $227. 92

IBR Amount - Sophia • Separate income – $65, 000(ADI): • Poverty line Borrower:

IBR Amount - Sophia • Separate income – $65, 000(ADI): • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: $65, 000 $18, 210 $19, 440 $27, 350 15% $4, 102. 50 $341. 88

IBR Amount - Jose • Separate income – ($105, 000): • Poverty line Borrower:

IBR Amount - Jose • Separate income – ($105, 000): • Poverty line Borrower: – 3 additional • • Discretionary income: Percent of income: Annual payment: Divided by 12: $105, 000 $18, 210 $19, 440 $67, 350 15% $10, 102. 50 $841. 88

Payment Comparisons Married Joint REPAYE IBR Current Payment Jose $278. 63 N/A $417. 95

Payment Comparisons Married Joint REPAYE IBR Current Payment Jose $278. 63 N/A $417. 95 $786. 83 Sophia $1, 157. 62 $1, 763. 41 $2, 015. 32 Married Separate REPAYE IBR Standard 10 Year Jose $213. 96 N/A $841. 88 $786. 83 Sophia $888. 94 $227. 92 $341. 88 $3, 397. 53 ***Can we do even better if we use the money being saved further?

What would you recommend?

What would you recommend?

A Possible Outcome • Jose & Sophia file taxed married separate • They use

A Possible Outcome • Jose & Sophia file taxed married separate • They use Jose’s AGI and Sophia’s Pay stub for Income documentation – Sophia increased 401 K contribution to $18, 500 maximum – Sophia enters into PAYE (65 K -18. 5 K) • $73. 75/mo – Jose enters into REPAYE (105 K + 65 K-18. 5 K) • $184. 06/mo

Budget Comparison Before • • • Joint Income: FICA: Fed Tax: State Tax: Loan

Budget Comparison Before • • • Joint Income: FICA: Fed Tax: State Tax: Loan payment: Family budget: $117, 309 $210, 000 $14, 915 $33, 219 $10, 931 $33, 626 After • • • Joint Income: FICA: Fed Tax: State Tax: Loan payment: $210, 000 $14, 915 $28, 779 $11, 693 $3, 094 Family budget: $151, 519 + $18, 500/yr in Sophia’s 401 K

Benefits of the Plan • Sophia is accumulating payments toward her maximum repayment length

Benefits of the Plan • Sophia is accumulating payments toward her maximum repayment length (20 years) • Jose is accumulating payments toward PSLF • Sophia & Jose can start to save for a down payment on a home • Debt to income ratios are improved for mortgage qualification • Sophia’s payment plan allows for her to take the risk of staring his own practice • Can begin saving for kids college plans • 401 K contributions reduce loan payments and tax

YES!

YES!

Future Considerations • Sophia’s income as she starts and builds up his practice •

Future Considerations • Sophia’s income as she starts and builds up his practice • Sophia’s eventual incorporations and benefits • Jose’s pre-tax contributions as incomes increase • Changing payments and changing liabilities from potential discharged debt • HSA and Health insurance review of child • Prelude to a Full Financial Plan

Summary • When both spouses have loans the recommendations can get very complex –

Summary • When both spouses have loans the recommendations can get very complex – Tax filing status – Community property – Income documentation – Treatment of income in different plans – Different repayment lengths – Different eligibility • No borrowers understand the differences and thus are never going to get the best outcome on their own