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How to Negotiate with the Sponsor and Keep Your Budget in the Black Petros

How to Negotiate with the Sponsor and Keep Your Budget in the Black Petros G. Okubagzi, MD Washington DC

Petros G. Okubagzi, MD I/we have no real or apparent conflicts of interest to

Petros G. Okubagzi, MD I/we have no real or apparent conflicts of interest to report.

Overview-Good News • Clinical trial spending in 2010~ $25 billion and is expected to

Overview-Good News • Clinical trial spending in 2010~ $25 billion and is expected to reach $28. 5 billion by 2014. • In 2010, the number of clinical trials in the U. S. was 25, 992. Expected to reach 32, 318 in 2014 • In 2009, 34. 8% of sales by medical compaines was spent in domestic R&D. In 2014, projected to reach 48. 8 Marketresearch. com

It is tough to start a trial

It is tough to start a trial

And expensive to run

And expensive to run

Cost of getting Drugs to Market

Cost of getting Drugs to Market

6 years to break even

6 years to break even

Long approval process

Long approval process

US losing trials to other countries

US losing trials to other countries

What happens when Study starts? 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. CDA( Confidentiality Signed)

What happens when Study starts? 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. CDA( Confidentiality Signed) Feasibility Questionnaire/Pre site visit complete Budget template/Contract provided by Sponsor Institutional review( Study team/Hospital) Counter offer provided by Study site Final Contract signed

Basic rules For Survival 1. Continuity 2. Flexibility 3. Information 4. Understanding finances 5.

Basic rules For Survival 1. Continuity 2. Flexibility 3. Information 4. Understanding finances 5. Diversification 6. Planning( Forecasting)

Continuity and Flexibility Have a Stable and experienced team

Continuity and Flexibility Have a Stable and experienced team

Information • Keep abreast with FDA rules/new context: Less in person visits? Remote monitoring?

Information • Keep abreast with FDA rules/new context: Less in person visits? Remote monitoring? “more work for the coordinators” • Medicare changes: what is considered standard of care or Customary “ having staffing with PHD in coding and deciphering essential”

Understand Finances • Negotiate with an Eye on the bigger picture 1. 2. 3.

Understand Finances • Negotiate with an Eye on the bigger picture 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. Lots of activities required but not covered Understand the Sponsors expectation Have room for overhead Negotiate for Screen failure patients Provide feedback to sponsor when streched

Keep Relationships

Keep Relationships

Learn from your mistakes

Learn from your mistakes

Diversification • Keep a healthy mix of studies and staff • There is no

Diversification • Keep a healthy mix of studies and staff • There is no study “beneath” you. . there is a study you can not and should not do • Listen to the portfolio manager. . Diversify

Study Distribution-2001 Stem cell. SVG Other Peripheral Drug Stent PFO Carotid Brachytherapy other Stent

Study Distribution-2001 Stem cell. SVG Other Peripheral Drug Stent PFO Carotid Brachytherapy other Stent peripheral Drug PFO Carotid Brachytherapy Stemcell SVG studies

Study Distribution-2011 Ischemia sensor Drug Valve DAPT Imaging Valve Imaging DAPT Ischemia sensor drug

Study Distribution-2011 Ischemia sensor Drug Valve DAPT Imaging Valve Imaging DAPT Ischemia sensor drug

In Summary • • Have a stable Working group/backbone Keep institutional support Negotiate well

In Summary • • Have a stable Working group/backbone Keep institutional support Negotiate well Diversify…Diversify. . Keep informed Remember you are a business. . But not a business for profit….

If things are really going bad

If things are really going bad

Have someone to back you

Have someone to back you

Avoid Being a One Trick Pony

Avoid Being a One Trick Pony

Planning/Forecasting • Be able to plan a year ahead at least with a sense

Planning/Forecasting • Be able to plan a year ahead at least with a sense of the next three-five years • Be sure to take advantage of the sunny days. Do not rest on your laurels • Cross train ( coordinators unfortunately tend to occasionally break, want to go to the beach and have babies) • Watch for the unexpected…

Collaboration Contract Negotiation Medicare Approval Budget Negotiation Enrollment IRB Approval Initiation and start

Collaboration Contract Negotiation Medicare Approval Budget Negotiation Enrollment IRB Approval Initiation and start

Getting the Jigsaw together Pathoo gy Resear ch office Clinical Resear ch Coordi nator

Getting the Jigsaw together Pathoo gy Resear ch office Clinical Resear ch Coordi nator OHRP Spons or PI FDA IRB JRSC Hospit al Clinical Trials Office Univer sity

Strategy to Maximize Success • Organization • Regular research meetings ¡Daily research staff ¡Discussion

Strategy to Maximize Success • Organization • Regular research meetings ¡Daily research staff ¡Discussion of ongoing trials, new trials, etc. • Regular meetings with Investigators ¡Study status, outcomes, violations, amendments ¡Team review of protocols prior to initiation • Study Tracking • Finance Tracking Same thing Giora does

Overview-Challenges • Investigative sites—research centers that conduct clinical research—have continued to shrink and have

Overview-Challenges • Investigative sites—research centers that conduct clinical research—have continued to shrink and have become more unstable over the past five years. • The most active and experienced investigative sites, who comprise the backbone of the clinical research industry in the U. S. , have seen the sharpest decline.

Overview-Challenges • The proportion of most active FDA-regulated principal investigators (PIs)—those who conduct at

Overview-Challenges • The proportion of most active FDA-regulated principal investigators (PIs)—those who conduct at least two clinical studies each year —has declined from 29% to less than 23% during the past five years, while the average number of new studies begun by the 60 highest volume sites in the U. S. and Canada fell by 85%. • Centerwatch

Overview-Challenges • Experienced investigative sites, with substantial clinical research infrastructure and high fixed costs,

Overview-Challenges • Experienced investigative sites, with substantial clinical research infrastructure and high fixed costs, are finding it difficult to stay in business. • Complex protocols, flat study budgets, an onerous regulatory compliance burden and more intense competition for studies are considered to be main difficulties