Why soft interaction approximations are not strong enough

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Why soft interaction approximations are not strong enough for jets in the QGP Simon

Why soft interaction approximations are not strong enough for jets in the QGP Simon Wicks Work done with Miklos Gyulassy With thanks to Azfar Adil, William Horowitz, Ivan Vitev

Where are we – Rad vs Coll? Qin et al (Mc. Gill group +

Where are we – Rad vs Coll? Qin et al (Mc. Gill group + Mustafa) AMY radiative (>> GLV radiative) ar. Xiv: 0710. 0605 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 2

Where are we - RAA(p. T) results? S. Wicks, M. Gyulassy (in preparation) 2

Where are we - RAA(p. T) results? S. Wicks, M. Gyulassy (in preparation) 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 3

Where are we - RAA(p. T) results? S. Wicks, M. Gyulassy (in preparation) 2

Where are we - RAA(p. T) results? S. Wicks, M. Gyulassy (in preparation) 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 4

Question: Can perturbative processes explain both the pion and electron high p. T data?

Question: Can perturbative processes explain both the pion and electron high p. T data? What are the uncertainties in our models? What do the parameters that we extract from the 'fitting' actually mean? 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 5

Outline Why soft interaction approximations are not strong enough for jets in the QGP

Outline Why soft interaction approximations are not strong enough for jets in the QGP 1) What do I mean by 'soft'? 2) Concluding remarks 3) Introduction, the models etc 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 6

Soft vs hard collisions Soft = soft relative to the medium Hard = hard

Soft vs hard collisions Soft = soft relative to the medium Hard = hard relative to the medium Note: hard relative to the medium can still be soft relative to the jet! 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 7

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 8

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 9

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 10

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd

Conclusion Comparisons between energy loss models cannot be summarized in one parameter. 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 11

Why? 1) q hat is a local parameter 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks

Why? 1) q hat is a local parameter 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 12

Why? 2) The response of a jet to the medium is a DISTRIBUTION not

Why? 2) The response of a jet to the medium is a DISTRIBUTION not a single parameter average 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 13

Which distributions? 1) d. N/d(ΔE) => Important for collisional energy loss 2) d. N/dqperp

Which distributions? 1) d. N/d(ΔE) => Important for collisional energy loss 2) d. N/dqperp => Important for radiative energy loss 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 14

Some examples (radiative) 1) Use GW model, but assume in deep LPM regime where

Some examples (radiative) 1) Use GW model, but assume in deep LPM regime where many, BDMPS many scatterings reduce (by central limit theorem) to Gaussian. hep-ph/9604327 2) Assume only very soft scatterings matter, make expansion of interaction for small q. T, use free parameter to fit. 3) Use full GW model including large q. T tails, but make a few implicit q. T small assumptions 4) Assume q. T << T is all that's important, use this assumption systematically throughout. 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 15

BUT. . . 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 16

BUT. . . 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 16

BUT. . . 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 17

BUT. . . 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 17

The model Simple model: t-channel on-shell 2 ->2 scattering Evaluate the distribution for one

The model Simple model: t-channel on-shell 2 ->2 scattering Evaluate the distribution for one collision, convolute for multiple collisions. Take several approximations, look at the effect on the resulting distributions 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 18

Models Note: C_ab's can be related to the imaginary part of the (medium modified)

Models Note: C_ab's can be related to the imaginary part of the (medium modified) propagator. Note: the full dk integrals can be done analytically => polylogs 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 19

Coefficients ? 1) Strict HTL – neglect (omega, q)/(E or k) everywhere => 'HTL-S'

Coefficients ? 1) Strict HTL – neglect (omega, q)/(E or k) everywhere => 'HTL-S' 2) HTL e. Xtrapolation – include the extra terms in the coefficients 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 20

'HTL-S' Delta E: Equivalent to Thoma-Gyulassy or t-channel or Braaten-Thoma qperp: similar to G-W

'HTL-S' Delta E: Equivalent to Thoma-Gyulassy or t-channel or Braaten-Thoma qperp: similar to G-W model, with changes as found by Djordjevic (and Jeon, Moore) 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 21

Models II For HTL e. Xtrapolation, what do we use as the propagators? HTL

Models II For HTL e. Xtrapolation, what do we use as the propagators? HTL propagators? free space propagators? => 'HTL-X 1', 'HTL-X 2' 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 22

Multiple collisions Convolution of single collision distribution We are far away from the approach

Multiple collisions Convolution of single collision distribution We are far away from the approach to the central limit theorem 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 23

Results: averages HTL-S GW HTL-S HTL-X 1, X 2 (Note: the RAA calc at

Results: averages HTL-S GW HTL-S HTL-X 1, X 2 (Note: the RAA calc at the beginning used HTL-X 1 for collisional) 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 24

Results: distributions q. T HTL-S GW HTL-X 1, X 2 2 nd November 2007

Results: distributions q. T HTL-S GW HTL-X 1, X 2 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 25

Results: distributions ΔE HTL-S HTL-X 1, X 2 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks

Results: distributions ΔE HTL-S HTL-X 1, X 2 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 26

So what? Can't we just scale all our results by a constant factor? 2

So what? Can't we just scale all our results by a constant factor? 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 27

Conclusion The details of the distributions will affect: mass dependence energy dependence of our

Conclusion The details of the distributions will affect: mass dependence energy dependence of our results. Must take into account recoil! Do not (only) make soft interaction approximations. The rarer, harder interactions are at least comparable in importance in our considerations of jet energy loss. There are many aspects to consider to reconcile the different energy loss models. 2 nd November 2007 Simon Wicks 28