Those Howards Talbots and Seymours again showing the

Those Howards, Talbots and Seymours again – showing the connection between several Royal wives/ mistresses by Stephen Lark To read with: Ashdown-Hill’s Royal Marriage Secrets

Edward I to Lady Eleanor Talbot (i) EDWARD I 1239 r. 1272 -1307 M 1 Eleanor of Castile 1241 -90 Joan (of Acre) 1272 -1307 M Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester 1243 -95 Eleanor 1292 -1337 M Hugh le despencer, Baron le despencer c. 1286 -1326 Elizabeth 1282 -1316 M Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford 1276 -1322 Eleanor c. 1304 -63 M James Butler, Earl of Ormonde c. 1305 -38 Elizabeth c. 1327 -89 M Maurice, Lord Berkeley 1330 -68 Petronilla -1367 M Gilbert, Lord Talbot c. 1332 -87 Thomas, Viscount Lisle 1353 -1417 M Margaret Lisle 1360 -92 Richard, Lord Talbot 1361 -96 M Ankaret le Strange 1361 -1413 Elizabeth c. 1386 -1422 M Richard de Beauchamp 1381 -1439 John Talbot (qv) Margaret 1404 -67 M John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury c. 1387 -1453 Lady Eleanor c. 1436 -68 (ii) M EDWARD IV 1442 r. 1461 -70, 71 -83

Edward I to Lucy Walter (1) EDWARD I 1239 r. 1272 -1307 M Marguerite of France 1282 -1317 Thomas of Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk 1300 -38 M Alice Hayles Margaret, Duchess of Norfolk 1320 -99 M Sir John Segrave Elizabeth 1338 -c. 1372 M John de Mowbray, Baron Mowbray 1340 -68 Thomas, Duke of Norfolk 1366 -99 M Elizabeth Fitzalan 1366 -1425 Margaret 1391 -1459 M Sir Robert Howard 1385 -1436 John, Duke of Norfolk c. 1423 -85 M Katherine Moleyns c. 1425 -65

Edward I to Lucy Walter (2) John Howard, Duke of Norfolk c. 1423 -85 M Katherine Moleyns 1425 -65 Thomas, Duke of Norfolk 1443 -1524 M 2 Agnes Tilney 1477 -1545 M 1 Elizabeth Tilney c. 1445 -97 Elizabeth c. 1480 -1538 Edmund c. 1478 -1539 M Joyce Culpeper c. 1480 -c. 1531 M Thomas Boleyn, Earl of Wiltshire c. 1477 -1539 Catherine c. 1521 -42 M HENRY VIII 1491 r. 1509 -47 Anne c. 1504 -36 M HENRY VIII (qv) Katherine -1554 Sir Rhys Fitz. Uryan c. 1505 -32 Gruffudd ap Rhys (Rice) c. 1526 -c. 1592 M Eleanor Johnes Mary Rice M Walter Vaughan Elinor Vaughan M John Protheroe -1624 Elizabeth 1606 -52 M William Walter 1605 -50 Lucy c. 1630 -52 (iii) & CHARLES II 1630 r. 1660 -85 James, Duke of Monmouth 1649 -85

John, Earl of Shrewsbury, to Maria Smythe (1) John, 1 st Earl of Shrewsbury c. 1387 -1453 M Maud Neville -1422 John, 2 nd Earl 1413 -60 M Elizabeth Butler -1473 Lady Anne c. 1446 -94 M Sir Henry Vernon 1445 -1515 Elizabeth c. 1480 -1563 M Sir Robert Corbet c. 1476 -1513 Jane M Sir Thomas Lee Richard -1591 M Eleanor Wrottesley -1596 Sir Humfry, Bt. C. 1569 -1631 M Margaret Corbet Sir Richard, Bt. c. 1600 -60 M Elizabeth Allen Mary 1643 -78

John, Earl of Shrewsbury to Maria Smythe (2) Mary Lee (qv) M Sir Edward Smyth Bt. -1714 Sir John Smythe, Bt. -1737 M Constantia Blount Walter c. 1721 -88 M Mary Errington Maria 1756 -1837 (iv) & GEORGE IV 1762 r. 1820 -30

Edward III to Seymours (1) EDWARD III 1312 r. 1327 -77 M Philippa of Hainault 1314 -69 Lionel, Duke of Clarence 1338 -68 M Elizabeth, Countess of Ulster 1332 -63 Philippa 1355 -82 M Edmund Mortimer, Earl of March 1352 -81 Elizabeth 1371 -1417 M Henry, Lord Percy 1364 -1403 Elizabeth 1395 -1437 M John, Lord Clifford c. 1388 -1422 Mary c. 1420 -58 M Sir Philip Wentworth 1424 -64 Sir Henry 1448 -1500 M 1456 -c. 94 Marjery (qv)

Seymour descent (2) Sir John c. 1474 -1536 M Marjery Wentworth c. 1478 -1550 Edward, Duke of Thomas, Admiral Baron Somerset c. 1500 -52 Seymour 1508 -49 Jane 1511 -37 M HENRY VIII 1491 r. 1509 -47 Sir Henry 1514 -78 M Barbara Wolfe 1520 - Sir John M Susan Paulet Edward M? Edward M ? Hartwell John (Mayor of Limerick 1708/20) M Jane Wroughton William M Jane Wight John (qv)

Seymour and Culme-Seymour descent (3) Rev. John Seymour -1795 M Griselda -1822 Rear Admiral Sir Michael Seymour, Bt 1768 -1834 M Jane Hawker Rev. Sir John Seymour, Bt 1800 -80 M Elizabeth Culme Admiral Sir Michael Culme-Seymour, Bt 1836 -1920 M Mary Watson -1912 Mary 1871 -1944 M Trevelyan Napier 1867 -1920 Margaret M Sir William Luce 1907 -77 Diana 1939 M David Hart Dyke 1938 - Miranda 1972 - Laura 1873 -95 possibly m GEORGE V 1865 r. 1910 -36

Genealogical references i. ii. iv. v. Fig. 3, RMS p. 58, on which slides 2 -4 are based. See also Eleanor, the Secret Queen (p. 21, 2016 edition) Lady Eleanor Talbot, RMS p. 79. Lucy Walter, RMS pp. 131 -3. Maria Smythe, RMS pp. 167 -75. Laura Culme-Seymour, RMS pp. 180 -8, esp. Fig. 5, p. 184.

Other notes 1. i Preferred source: http: //www. genealogics. org/index. php (Leo van der Pas, Canberra) 2. Additional source (for the Irish Seymours): http: //www. thepeerage. com/index. htm (Darryl Lundy, Wellington)