Teaching EvidenceBased Medicine Gary S Gronseth MD FAAN
Teaching Evidence-Based Medicine Gary S Gronseth, MD, FAAN Professor of Neurology University of Kansas
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy – Understand two sources of error – Love the 2 x 2 table • Emphasize Evidence never enough – Apply to your patient – Incorporate patient values
A case… • A 58 year-old right-handed man suddenly developed problems speaking, right lower facial weakness and right hand clumsiness. His symptoms slowly resolved over a week. • He had a history of controlled HTN and no other risk factors. • Head MRI: small left frontal infarct. • EKG: sinus rhythm. • MRA: no cranial artery stenosis. • Echocardiogram: PFO
The Physician’s Dilemma To Close or Not to Close Even if the answer is unknown, a decision must be made!
Close PFO? “Where I trained” Clinical Reasoning
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable Close PFO? Clinical Reasoning
Deceitful
“Closure of PFO in patients with cryptogenic ischemic stroke is the standard of care in the community. ” “The consequences of a second stroke are potentially devastating. PFO closure is mandatory. ”
Fallacious • • • Irrelevant Rhetoric Psychological appeal Emotion-Driven Persuasion
Determining relevance: Define the question Patient Intervention Co-intervention Outcome
Determining relevance: Define the question For patients with cryptogenic stroke and PFO does PFO closure vs no PFO closure reduce the risk of the next stroke
Popular Appeal “Closure of PFO in patients with cryptogenic ischemic stroke is the standard of care in the community. ”
Begging the Question “The consequences of a second stroke are potentially devastating. PFO closure is mandatory. ”
Irrelevant Outcomes I’ll be sued. I’ll be reimbursed
Deceitful Fallacious
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable ? O F se P Clo F y c a all Deceit
Deceitful Fallacious Reasoned
Reasoned • Relevant • Logical appeal • Data-Driven • Truth
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles Close PFO? Judgment Evidence Principles
Decision Principles
Deductive Inference From Principles • The left side of the brain controls the right side of the body • My patient can’t control the right side of his body • My patient has a problem with the left side of his brain
Use a Parachute? Principles
Close PFO? Principles
PFO • Fibrous adhesions fail to seal the atrial septum after birth • Persistence of a potential shunt between the right and left atria of the heart
PFO might allow paradoxical embolism • Small emboli normally filtered by lung without clinically important consequence • In patients with PFO, emboli can travel to the brain and cause ischemic stroke • Closing the PFO will prevent future strokes
Close PFO? Principles
Reasoned • Relevant • Reason • Logical appeal • Data-Driven • Truth Deduction (Principles)
Close PFO? Evidence Principles
Analogy and Inductive Inference • John had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, he didn’t have another stroke. • Sue had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, she didn’t have another stroke. • Bob had a stroke and PFO and wasn’t treated with closure, he had another stroke • Jane has a stroke and PFO. We should treat her with closure to prevent another stroke.
Evidence What happened to patients?
Close PFO? Evidence Principles
Reasoned • Relevant • Reason • Logical appeal • Data-Driven • Truth Induction (Evidence) Deduction (Principles)
Close PFO? Best Guess Judgment Opinion Hypothesis Evidence Principles
Reasoned • Relevant • Reason • Logical appeal • Data-Driven • Truth Intuition (Judgment) Induction (Evidence) Deduction (Principles)
Distinguishing Opinion from Principles • Is there equipoise? – Do reasonable people disagree? – Would an IRB approve a trial? – Is there an ongoing trial? Close PFO? • Evidence separates judgment from principles Judgment Evidence Principles
Scientific Method Hypothesis Experiment Theory
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles Close PFO? Judgment Evidence Principles
Strong To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy Weak
Strong • John had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, he didn’t have another stroke. • Sue had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, she didn’t have another stroke. • Bob had a stroke and PFO and wasn’t treated with closure, he had another stroke • Jane has a stroke and PFO. We should treat her with closure to prevent another stroke. Weak
Inferences from Evidence… Strong Are not valid or invalid Are never certain Weak
Informally recalled cases Strong • John had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, he didn’t have another stroke. • Sue had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, she didn’t have another stroke. • Bob had a stroke and PFO and wasn’t treated with closure, he had another stroke • Jane has a stroke and PFO. We should treat her with closure to prevent another stroke. Why is this a weak inference? Weak
Inferences from informally recalled cases can mislead • Too few cases • Selective recall: remember those – That are more recent – With extreme results – That support our pre-conceptions Experts are not immune to these limitations
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy – Understand two sources of error
Two Sources of Error • Often too few cases Random Chance • Selective recall: remember those – That are more recent – With extreme results – That support our preconceptions Systematic Bias
Find More Cases Retrospective Observational Sudy 2002 to 2010 Of all Stroke and PFO Cases: 319
Rats… I’m going to have to start counting these cases
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy – Understand two sources of error – Love the 2 x 2 table
Relationships between variables PFO Closure and Stroke
2 X 2 Table Outcome Treatment No stroke Stroke All Closure 167 No Closure 152 Total 239 80 319
Expected if No Relationship Outcome Treatment Stroke All Closure No stroke 125 42 167 No Closure 114 38 152 Total 239 80 319
Expected if no Realtionship Outcome Treatment Stroke All Closure No stroke 75% 25% 100% No Closure 75% 25% 100% Total 75% 25% 100%
“Actual” Outcome Treatment Stroke All Closure No stroke 150 17 167 No Closure 89 63 152 Total 239 80 319
“Actual” Outcome Treatment Stroke All Closure No stroke 90% 100% No Closure 59% 41% 100% Total 75% 25% 100%
2 X 2 Table Outcome Treatment Stroke All Closure No stroke a b 167 No Closure c d 152 Total 239 80 319
Measures of Association Outcome Treatment No stroke Stroke All Closure a b 167 No Closure c d 152 Total 239 80 319 Relative Risk stroke = Risk difference stroke = b/(a+b) d/(c+d) b/(a+b) - d/(c+d)
Measure of Association Relative Risk Stroke Outcome Treatment Stroke Closure No stroke 90% No Closure 59% 41% 10% RR Stroke 10/41 = 0. 24
Cryptogenic stroke patients receiving Closure were 0. 24 times less likely to have stroke. Therefore, I should offer my patients with stroke and PFO Closure.
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy – Understand two sources of error – Love the 2 x 2 table
Random (Sampling) Error --Incorrect result from bad luck Equally likely to be too high or too low Statistical power/precision --Measured by: P-values (p < 0. 001) Confidence intervals RR 0. 24: (95% confidence intervals 0. 15 to 0. 40)
Truth Measured 0. 25 0. 75 1 Systematic Error Incorrect results from poor study design or execution More likely to be too high or too low Risk of Bias Measured: Semi-quantitatively Class of Evidence 1. 25 1. 5
Our Study Stroke No Stroke +Cl -Cl Patients not receiving Closure were more often older, diabetic and hypertensive Sometimes had to “guess” the outcome from the record.
Major Sources of Bias Confounding Misclassification +Cl -Cl Poor Good
Lower Risk of Bias The Randomized Masked Trial Poor +Cl R -Cl Good
What is the risk of Bias? Strong Weak Randomized Masked Trial Single Case Report
Find the best evidence Search online databases MEDLINE
Conclusion Strong Weak There is insufficient evidence to support or refute the benefit or lack of harm of PFO closure.
Decide Strong Despite the weak evidence, a decision must be made. Weak
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy – Understand two sources of error – Love the 2 x 2 table Close PFO? Judgment • Emphasize Evidence never enough Evidence – Apply to your patient – Incorporate patient values Principles
Induction is never certain • Often the evidence is weak • Even when strong, the Evidence never perfectly applies to your patient • Explicitly consider how well the evidence applies to your patient
Incorporating patient values Benefits Risks Uncertainty
Know what is not Known • If you fail to acknowledge the uncertainty and tell the patient we know that the PFO should or should not be closed… • You have failed to distinguish opinion from principles. Close PFO Judgment Evidence Principles
To Teach EBM… • Explicitly Reason – Exclude the unreasonable – Distinguish opinion from principles • Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy – Understand two sources of error – Love the 2 x 2 table • Emphasize Evidence never enough – Apply to your patient – Incorporate patient values Decision Judgment Evidence Principles
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