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Stata and SPSS compared: The views of one teacher and 140 students Presented at

Stata and SPSS compared: The views of one teacher and 140 students Presented at workshop on Software Choice for Teachers of Quantitative Methods for Social Science, Oxford, June 2014 Rob Johns rajohn@essex. ac. uk

An important decision? Some statements that I think will be true regardless: • The

An important decision? Some statements that I think will be true regardless: • The best students will have few problems • The most panic-prone students will be terrified • Those who grasp one package will be able to switch to others with relative ease • The biggest mistakes will continue to be conceptual rather than technical • Statistical understanding will remain by far the most powerful predictor of performance

Bases for comparison Three types of bases: 1. Intrinsic • Characteristics of the packages

Bases for comparison Three types of bases: 1. Intrinsic • Characteristics of the packages themselves 2. Contextual • Features of the situation in which you’ll use them 3. Experiential • How students react to and cope with them

 • Structure 1. Intrinsic features – Both offer command-driven and point-and-click – Command-driven

• Structure 1. Intrinsic features – Both offer command-driven and point-and-click – Command-driven easier in Stata • Look – SPSS spreadsheet-y; commands more prominent in Stata • Coverage – For introductory courses, both cover everything – Beyond that, Stata generally better (but depends on subject) • Graphics – Stata look a bit better; SPSS more point-and-click editable • Flexibility – Stata more flexible in command language and via add-ons

 • Cost/accessibility 2. Contextual considerations – Neither affordable without institutional subscription – (Which

• Cost/accessibility 2. Contextual considerations – Neither affordable without institutional subscription – (Which is probably more likely with SPSS) • Subject/discipline – Stata seems little known outside Economics and Politics • Destinations – Academia or employment? What type of employer? Where? • Calibre of students – Higher mean (and maybe lower variance) may point to Stata • Student-staff ratio – Small errors cause big disruption in larger classes

3. Experiential factors • Immediate/emotional reactions • User-friendliness • Quality/depth of learning • Impact

3. Experiential factors • Immediate/emotional reactions • User-friendliness • Quality/depth of learning • Impact on future ambitions Data • Survey of 2 nd-year UG Politics students at Essex • Compulsory module in introductory statistics • Stata (N=68) from 2014; SPSS (N=72) from 2011 • Not a pure experiment but no blatant biasing factor

‘Randomisation’ checks SPSS (2011) Stata (2014) Difference % male 39 47 n. s. %

‘Randomisation’ checks SPSS (2011) Stata (2014) Difference % male 39 47 n. s. % used software before 8 16 n. s. % problems with spoken English 8 10 n. s. Statistics 3. 10 2. 93 n. s. Mathematics 3. 75 3. 61 n. s. Computer programming 2. 59 2. 13 p<0. 1 Mark in other modules (0 -100) 62. 6 65. 4 n. s. Risk-willingness (0 -6) 3. 61 3. 90 p<0. 1 Response rate 53% 57% n. s. 72 68 Self-rated ability (0 -6) in: N

Immediate reactions “Please just type into the box the first thing that comes into

Immediate reactions “Please just type into the box the first thing that comes into your mind when it comes to your experience with Stata/SPSS. ” SPSS Stata I hate it! Difficult confusing What is this box for? Never taught how to use it. dont really understand it Complicated useful, interesting Accessible Sometimes it’s a bit irritating Interesting. Terrifying A nice and easy program Understanding the graphs statistics I don't know OK Negative difficult Handy! sometimes complicated Different CONFUSING Takes a while to get used to a new experience! bad looking Confusing Finicky usefull information I have a negative image quick way to find answers i don't understand!

Emotional reactions % of respondents ticking that emotion 50% SPSS 40% Stata 30% 20%

Emotional reactions % of respondents ticking that emotion 50% SPSS 40% Stata 30% 20% 10% 0% Happy Proud Confident Hopeful Uneasy Afraid Angry Frustrated Which (if any) describes your feelings about SPSS/Stata?

Compared to expectations 70% % of respondents 60% 50% SPSS Stata 40% 30% 20%

Compared to expectations 70% % of respondents 60% 50% SPSS Stata 40% 30% 20% 10% 0% Much worse A bit worse The same A bit better Much better How has experience with SPSS/Stata compared to expectations?

Perceived user-friendliness 70% % of respondents 60% SPSS Stata 50% 40% 30% 20% 10%

Perceived user-friendliness 70% % of respondents 60% SPSS Stata 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0% 0 - Very unfriendly 1 2 3 4 5 6 - Very friendly

Ease of use Mean difficult/easy score (0 -6) 6 SPSS 5 Stata 4 3

Ease of use Mean difficult/easy score (0 -6) 6 SPSS 5 Stata 4 3 2 1 0 Opening datasets Navigating menus Writing command lines Creating and Reading and Using Help recoding interpreting variables output Exporting output

Quality of learning: 1 70% 60% SPSS Stata 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0%

Quality of learning: 1 70% 60% SPSS Stata 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0% Never Rarely Sometimes Usually I don't think; I just mechanically follow instructions Always

Quality of learning: 2 70% 60% SPSS Stata 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0%

Quality of learning: 2 70% 60% SPSS Stata 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0% Never Rarely Sometimes Usually I explore ____ rather than just doing what we're taught Always

Learned cf. understood 6 Mean score (0 - none; 6 - all) SPSS 5

Learned cf. understood 6 Mean score (0 - none; 6 - all) SPSS 5 Stata 4 3 2 1 0 Learned Understood How much of the year's ____ work have you. . .

The fallout for QM 6 SPSS Stata Mean score (0 -6) 5 4 3

The fallout for QM 6 SPSS Stata Mean score (0 -6) 5 4 3 2 1 0 On confidence On likelihood of use in degree Effect of SPSS/Stata on. . . On likelihood of use in job

Impact on QM career ambitions 50% SPSS % of respondents 40% Stata 30% 20%

Impact on QM career ambitions 50% SPSS % of respondents 40% Stata 30% 20% 10% 0% 0 - Much less likely 1 2 3 4 More/less likely to use QM in future career 5 6 - Much more likely

Is it the same people who succeed? Male SPSS Risk-willing Stata English problems Marks

Is it the same people who succeed? Male SPSS Risk-willing Stata English problems Marks in other modules Statistics experience Programming experience -0. 4 -0. 2 0. 0 Standardized regression coefficient 0. 2 0. 4

. dos and don’ts with Stata • . do files are the biggest boon

. dos and don’ts with Stata • . do files are the biggest boon for regular Stata users • But a mixed blessing for teachers • They provide a quick and easy way for: – proficient students to assemble and run code – panicking students to ignore but still run code • Blurs the usual GUI/command-driven distinction – if students write. do files, command-driven (with usual pros and cons) – If teachers write. do files, students do and think less than with GUI

Conclusions • First: it doesn’t matter that much • The teaching and use of

Conclusions • First: it doesn’t matter that much • The teaching and use of the software matters more than the choice • Insofar as the choice matters, a lot depends on the audience: – its capacities – and your ambitions for it • Where heterogeneity demands it (and GTA supply permits it)… • …a dual strategy can be workable and effective

Stata and SPSS compared: The views of one teacher and 140 students Presented at

Stata and SPSS compared: The views of one teacher and 140 students Presented at workshop on Software Choice for Teachers of Quantitative Methods for Social Science, Oxford, June 2014 Rob Johns rajohn@essex. ac. uk