Roth IRA vs Traditional IRA Vicente J Gonzaga

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Roth IRA vs. Traditional IRA Vicente J. Gonzaga Erl Malboeuf Team 6

Roth IRA vs. Traditional IRA Vicente J. Gonzaga Erl Malboeuf Team 6

Overview �What are IRAs? �Roth vs. Traditional �The Scenario �Analyses and Comparisons �Conclusions

Overview �What are IRAs? �Roth vs. Traditional �The Scenario �Analyses and Comparisons �Conclusions

What are IRAs? �IRA = Investment Retirement Account Specialized savings accounts specifically geared for

What are IRAs? �IRA = Investment Retirement Account Specialized savings accounts specifically geared for post-retirement funding �Tax features Tax-deductible Tax-deferred Tax -free

Choices, Choices �So why are we up here? �IRAs come in two main flavors:

Choices, Choices �So why are we up here? �IRAs come in two main flavors: 1) Traditional 2) Roth �Which one?

Roth vs. Traditional �Traditional IRA Contributions are tax-deductible ▪ $75, 000 gross salary ▪

Roth vs. Traditional �Traditional IRA Contributions are tax-deductible ▪ $75, 000 gross salary ▪ Deposit 10% ($7, 500) into a Traditional ▪ ($75, 000 -$7, 500)=$67, 500 (new gross income) �Cool beans, right?

Traditional IRA �Contributions are tax-deductible, but withdrawals are taxed based on the income bracket

Traditional IRA �Contributions are tax-deductible, but withdrawals are taxed based on the income bracket they fall under �Traditional IRAs Tax-deductible contributions Tax-deferred balance growth Taxed withdrawals/distributions

Roth IRA �Roth IRA Contributions are not tax deductible ▪ $75, 000 gross salary

Roth IRA �Roth IRA Contributions are not tax deductible ▪ $75, 000 gross salary ▪ $75, 000 – [25%($75, 000)]=$56, 250 ▪ THEN deposit 10% ($5, 625) into the Roth IRA ▪ $5, 625<$7500 (from Traditional) �Ew… right?

Roth IRA �Contributions are made with after-tax dollars, but withdrawals are tax-free. �Roth IRA

Roth IRA �Contributions are made with after-tax dollars, but withdrawals are tax-free. �Roth IRA Contributions based on after-tax dollars Balance growth is tax-free Withdrawals/distributions are tax-free

Roth and Traditional �Important fact to keep in mind: Both Roth and Traditional IRAs

Roth and Traditional �Important fact to keep in mind: Both Roth and Traditional IRAs impose contribution caps (equal for both) ▪ Caps are adjusted for inflation every few years. ▪ For simplicity, we treated cap adjustment as continuous These caps greatly affect the dynamics of the savings plan given initial conditions.

The Pitch �You are Yoda (you can live for a very, very long time).

The Pitch �You are Yoda (you can live for a very, very long time). �You have used the force to earn an engineering degree and have landed a position with $60, 000 gross annual pay “Long, I live. ”

Major Assumptions �Deposits will always be a fixed percentage of available income �“Excess” savings

Major Assumptions �Deposits will always be a fixed percentage of available income �“Excess” savings (explained later) will go into market investment We later neglect “excess” �Assume no pension �Tax brackets always apply where appropriate

Default Values �Starting Gross Salary: $60, 000 �Expected Annual Raise=8% �Annual deposit rate: 10%

Default Values �Starting Gross Salary: $60, 000 �Expected Annual Raise=8% �Annual deposit rate: 10% Applies to available income Deposits between accounts are not equal This is strictly followed �Post-retirement Lifestyle: $65, 000 �Total years employed: 41

Default Values �Inflation: 3. 5% �IRA Caps increase by inflation (=3. 5%) �Interest earned

Default Values �Inflation: 3. 5% �IRA Caps increase by inflation (=3. 5%) �Interest earned on both IRAs: 5% �Market ROR: 9. 00% �Retirement Assets ROR: 6. 00%

The Reference Parameter? �Debt-free years after retirement! �How long under each account given equal

The Reference Parameter? �Debt-free years after retirement! �How long under each account given equal conditions will you last after retirement?

Our Goal �UNPRECEDENTED , NEEDLESSLY METICULOUSL ACCURACY �(Flip to excel file and previous presentation

Our Goal �UNPRECEDENTED , NEEDLESSLY METICULOUSL ACCURACY �(Flip to excel file and previous presentation on similar topic)

Assumptions Made (from a past class’ presentation) � Equal contributions to both plans �

Assumptions Made (from a past class’ presentation) � Equal contributions to both plans � Roth IRA ineligibility ignored � Flat tax (not tiered) � Annual salary raises kept up with inflation at 3% � ROR is 10% � No 401 K matching from employer � No Social Security Benefits � No investment fees � 35 working years

Excess Included 200. 00 Years vs. EAR 180. 00 12. 0%, 175. 00 160.

Excess Included 200. 00 Years vs. EAR 180. 00 12. 0%, 175. 00 160. 00 140. 00 Years 120. 00 100. 00 Roth Traditional 80. 00 12. 0%, 73. 15 60. 00 40. 00 20. 00 0. 0% 2. 0% 4. 0% 6. 0% EAR 8. 0% 10. 0% 12. 0% 14. 0%

Excess Included 70. 00 Years vs. Deposit Rate 60. 00 50. 00 Years 40.

Excess Included 70. 00 Years vs. Deposit Rate 60. 00 50. 00 Years 40. 00 Roth Traditional 30. 00 20. 00 10. 00 0% 2% 4% 6% 8% Deposit Rate 10% 12% 14% 16%

Excess Included 70 Years vs. Salary 60 50 Years 40 Roth Traditional 30 20

Excess Included 70 Years vs. Salary 60 50 Years 40 Roth Traditional 30 20 10 0 0. 00 20000. 00 40000. 00 60000. 00 Starting Salary 80000. 00 100000. 00 120000. 00

Excess Included 30. 00 Years vs. Employed Years 25. 00 Years 20. 00 15.

Excess Included 30. 00 Years vs. Employed Years 25. 00 Years 20. 00 15. 00 Roth Traditional 10. 00 5. 00 0 5 10 15 20 25 Employed Years 30 35 40 45

So Far… �It looks like Traditional IRA is the better choice�But is the whole

So Far… �It looks like Traditional IRA is the better choice�But is the whole story? Remember that we’ve been including excess savings (that have been invested with an ROR of 9. 00%) �Let us now neglect excess savings

Excess Is Neglected! 6. 00 Years vs. EAR 5. 00 Years 4. 00 3.

Excess Is Neglected! 6. 00 Years vs. EAR 5. 00 Years 4. 00 3. 00 Roth Traditional 2. 00 1. 00 0. 0% 2. 0% 4. 0% 6. 0% EAR 8. 0% 10. 0% 12. 0% 14. 0%

Excess Is Neglected! 6. 00 Years vs. Deposit Rate 5. 00 Years 4. 00

Excess Is Neglected! 6. 00 Years vs. Deposit Rate 5. 00 Years 4. 00 3. 00 Roth Traditional 2. 00 1. 00 0% 2% 4% 6% 8% Deposit Rate 10% 12% 14% 16%

Excess Is Neglected! 6 Years vs. Starting Salary 5 Years 4 3 Roth Traditional

Excess Is Neglected! 6 Years vs. Starting Salary 5 Years 4 3 Roth Traditional 2 1 0 0. 00 20000. 00 40000. 00 60000. 00 Starting Salary 80000. 00 100000. 00 120000. 00

Excess Is Neglected! 6. 00 Years vs. Years Employed 5. 00 Years 4. 00

Excess Is Neglected! 6. 00 Years vs. Years Employed 5. 00 Years 4. 00 3. 00 2. 00 1. 00 0 5 10 15 20 25 Years Employed 30 35 40 45

The Tables have Turned! �So what just happened? Excess Included => IRA wins Excess

The Tables have Turned! �So what just happened? Excess Included => IRA wins Excess neglected => Roth wins �Which one really wins? The answer lies in the circumstances, and may change according to certain factors blahblah…

BASICALLY �It depends! �Traditional IRA “won” with excess This implies that the Traditional IRA

BASICALLY �It depends! �Traditional IRA “won” with excess This implies that the Traditional IRA allows for more flexibility with extra savings! �Roth IRA “won” when excess was neglected This implies that between the two, Roth IRA has the longest staying power based purely on account withdrawals!

The Bottom Line �The Roth IRA is the safer option for people who choose

The Bottom Line �The Roth IRA is the safer option for people who choose to invest extra savings minimally. If left to account balance alone, the Roth will outlast the Traditional. �People who tend to rely on earned interest and surefire, small investments should choose the Roth.

The Other Bottom Line �The Traditional IRA allows for creative use of large excess

The Other Bottom Line �The Traditional IRA allows for creative use of large excess savings but does not have as much post-retirement staying power as the Roth. It is therefore slightly riskier. �People who are more confident investors and are investment-savvy may benefit more from a Traditional IRA, or may find the Traditional more appealing.