Psalm 34 17 19 not doubtfree certainty rather
Psalm 34: 17 -19
“…not doubt-free certainty; rather, it is tenacious obedience. ” John Ortberg
The Pain of Christianity
“Salvation is free. Discipleship costs. ” C. Y. Kim
“Where are You, God? ” C. Y. Kim Job 7: 17 -21
“ 3 Questions that no one asks. ” (but we all do - Job started it) n Is God unfair? Job 10: 2 -9 21: 6 -17
“ 3 Questions that no one asks. ” (but we all do - Job started it) n Is God unfair? Job 10: 2 -9 21: 6 -17 n Is God silent? Job 19: 7 30: 20
“ 3 Questions that no one asks. ” (but we all do - Job started it) n Is God unfair? Job 10: 2 -9 21: 6 -17 n Is God silent? Job 19: 7 30: 20 n Is God hidden? Job 13: 23 -24 23: 3 -5
“Where is God when it hurts? ” Psalm 71: 12
PAIN “God’s great mistake? ”
Psalm 139: 13 -17 “Fearfully & Wonderfully Made”
“When you have no experience of pain, it is rather hard to experience joy. ” George Wald
Job 36: 15 - Elihu speaks “But those who suffer he delivers in their suffering; he speaks to them in their affliction. ”
God’s megaphone. . “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain. It is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world. ” C. S. Lewis
The big IF. . . Romans 8: 16 -17
The big IF. . . Romans 8: 16 -17 BUT verse 18
“light & momentary. . ? ” II Corinthians 4: 16 -18
What is already a part of your relationship? “Though He slay me…” Job “Your law is my delight…” David
Doesn’t God know that He might actually drive people away from Him? Psalm 119: 67, 71, 75
A faith refined. . . I Peter 1: 6 -7 Isaiah 48: 8 -11
As you suffer, God may not show you why, but He will show you Who. Job 38 -42
The wicked prosper. . The righteous are afflicted. . I Peter 5: 10 Job 20: 4 -5 Psalm 73
Rain & Sun Righteous & Unrighteous Matthew 5: 45
“If I have sinned, Job 7: 20 what have I done to you, O watcher of men? Why have You made me your target? Have I become a burden to you? ” Is pain & suffering God’s punishment for our sin? Psalm 89: 20 -37
Why do bad things happen to those who love Jesus & to those loved by Jesus?
Is my suffering proportional to my sin? Lamentations 3: 31 -33 Lamentations 3: 37 -40 Psalm 28: 3 -4 Psalm 94: 1 -2 Psalm 103: 8 -10 Pay ‘em back, God, but….
Wages of sin is…. ? Suffering?
Does God punish & discipline me? Hebrews 12: 4 -11 What for?
Is all my pain & suffering because of my sin? John 9: 1 -3 Luke 13: 1 -5 John 11
Not “Why? ” but rather. . . To What End? “…now I rejoice not because you were pained, but because the pain led you to turn back to God. ” II Corinthians 7: 8 -11 Complete Jewish Bible
Why won’t God just heal us?
Do we allow God to use us, however He sees fit, to draw others to Him? Philippians 1: 29 I Peter 4: 12 -19
Isn’t the Bible full of examples of healing? II Corinthians 12: 7 -10 I Timothy 5: 23 II Timothy 4: 20
If God can heal, then why won’t He?
What is my perspective toward suffering?
Do we get what we deserve? Psalm 53: 1 -3 Matthew 19: 16 -17 James 2: 10 -11
Do we get what we deserve? Psalm 103: 8 -18
What has changed about God? What has been healed? Isaiah 53: 4 -6 I Peter 2: 21 -25
“Jesus gave God a face, and that face is streaked with tears. ” Philip Yancey
“Where is God when it hurts? ” Psalm 10: 17 -18 Psalm 22: 24
“My comfort in my suffering is this: Your promise preserves my life. ” Psalm 119: 50
“Endurance is not just the ability to bear a hard thing, but to turn it into glory. ” William Barclay
Does our suffering glorify God? II Thessalonians 1: 3 -10 Philippians 3: 10 -11
This isn’t the way God intended for it to be. . . Revelation 21: 1 -4 What is to be: No more death, mourning, crying or pain
Our attitude toward suffering? It’s our choice. . . “A relationship with God does not promise supernatural deliverance from hardship, but rather a supernatural use of it. ” Philip Yancey
Help to keep them from suffering for the wrong reasons • God is trying to tell you something • must be a reason for your suffering • you must have sinned confess & be healed • if only you had more faith
Why does God allow suffering in the world? If God dwells in us now, then shouldn’t the question be. . .
From the pain of the moment, to the joy of eternity. . . John 16: 33 Romans 8: 28 Psalm 34: 17 -18
“Where is God when it hurts? ” “There from the beginning there to the end. ”
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