Presentation on Subject Choice for Leaving Certificate Clonakilty

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Presentation on Subject Choice for Leaving Certificate Clonakilty Community College Ger Murphy Guidance Counsellor

Presentation on Subject Choice for Leaving Certificate Clonakilty Community College Ger Murphy Guidance Counsellor 1

Compulsory Subjects All Three Subjects (3) n Irish (Except for those with exemptions) n

Compulsory Subjects All Three Subjects (3) n Irish (Except for those with exemptions) n English n Maths 2

Optional Subjects – Choose 4 n n n n n French Physics Chemistry Biology

Optional Subjects – Choose 4 n n n n n French Physics Chemistry Biology Agricultural Science Art Geography History Business Accounting n n Construction Studies (known as Woodwork for JC) Engineering (known as Metalwork for JC) n Design and Communication Graphics (known as Tech Graph for JC) n LCVP (Link Modules) 3

IN LCVP, STUDY in CLASS WILL INCLUDE PREPARATION FOR THE WORLD OF WORK Students

IN LCVP, STUDY in CLASS WILL INCLUDE PREPARATION FOR THE WORLD OF WORK Students will research and investigate local employment opportunities, develop job seeking skills such as letter writing, CV presentation, interview techniques; gain valuable practical experience of the world of work; interview and work shadow a person in a career area that interests them. n ENTERPRISE EDUCATION Students will be involved in organising visits to local business and community enterprises; meet and interview enterprising people on site and in the classroom; plan and undertake interesting activities that will build self–confidence, creativity, initiative and develop teamwork, communication and computer skills. n n STUDENTS ALSO TYPE UP A PORTFOLIO TO INCLUDE, Curriculum Vitae – Career Investigation – Enterprise/Action Plan – Summary Report – Diary of Work Experience – Recorded Interview WRITTEN EXAM 40% (MAY), PORTFOLIO 60% 4

LCVP Points: • Points from LCVP accepted in INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY and UNIVERSITIES since

LCVP Points: • Points from LCVP accepted in INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY and UNIVERSITIES since 2004 • In 2017 the LCVP will be worth: q Distinction 66 points q Merit 46 points q Pass 28 points

New Leaving Cert Grades 2017

New Leaving Cert Grades 2017

New CAO Points System 2017

New CAO Points System 2017

Leaving Certificate Programme n Subject Levels ¨ Higher and Ordinary level all subjects. ¨

Leaving Certificate Programme n Subject Levels ¨ Higher and Ordinary level all subjects. ¨ + Foundation level Mathematics & Irish. ¨ Particular care needs to be taken with Mathematics. Failure in this subject can be detrimental to overall L. C. 8

General Advice If students are not really sure what they want to do in

General Advice If students are not really sure what they want to do in the future: n Pick a broad range of subjects in order to keep options open Many students will change their minds about their future a number of times in the next 2 years n E. g. ¨ one language ¨ one science ¨ one business ¨ one humanities / applied science This combination would allow access into a broad range of courses/careers. 9

FACTORS INFLUENCING SUBJECT CHOICE Ø WHAT SUBJECTS DO STUDENTS ENJOY (THEY WILL WORK BEST

FACTORS INFLUENCING SUBJECT CHOICE Ø WHAT SUBJECTS DO STUDENTS ENJOY (THEY WILL WORK BEST AT THESE SUBJECTS) Ø ABILITY AND APTITUDE IN THE SUBJECT Ø IS THE SUBJECT NECESSARY FOR A COURSE ENTRY AT THIRD LEVEL? Ø FRIENDS/ PARENTS/SIBLINGS, ETC Ø PERCEIVED AS ‘EASY’ OR ‘HARD’ Ø LIKES/DISLIKES THE TEACHER (NOT A GOOD REASON) 10

Ensuring Good Subject Choice n n Discuss subject choice with your son/daughter Students are

Ensuring Good Subject Choice n n Discuss subject choice with your son/daughter Students are advised and shown how to do as much research as possible – not all do Do as much research yourself – excellent resources available Be realistic – if a student did not like or excel at a subject at JC why would that change at LC 11

Optional Subjects n It is highly desirable that if a student picks a subject

Optional Subjects n It is highly desirable that if a student picks a subject for LC that they have taken it to JC, if they have not studied it previously they may be at a considerable disadvantage n If a subject has not been taken to JC it may not be possible to do it for LC – it depends on the subject. 12

How to tell us your subject choice Go to www. clonakiltycc. ie n Click

How to tell us your subject choice Go to www. clonakiltycc. ie n Click on VSware icon n Go to Student Options n Click on the box next to each number below and a drop down menu of subjects will appear. n Choose 6 in order of preference n When complete – Options Completed will appear. n 13

The National Qualifications Framework

The National Qualifications Framework

ROUTES AFTER SCHOOL n APPLY TO POST LEAVING CERT COURSES (YOU APPLY DIRECTLY TO

ROUTES AFTER SCHOOL n APPLY TO POST LEAVING CERT COURSES (YOU APPLY DIRECTLY TO COLLEGE) eg. ST. JOHN’S COLLEGE, COLLEGE OF COMMERCE, KINSALE COLLEGE OF FURTHER EDUCATION n APPLY TO COURSES THROUGH THE CAO (CENTRAL APPLICATIONS OFFICE) UNIVERSITIES AND INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY eg. UCC, CIT, UL, TRINITY, ETC 15

Options after Leaving Cert Higher Education Institutions (HEI’s) n n 45 Higher Education Institutions

Options after Leaving Cert Higher Education Institutions (HEI’s) n n 45 Higher Education Institutions (HEI’s) covering Universities, Institutes of Technology (Io. T’s), Art Colleges, Specialist Colleges and some Private Colleges (Colleges not covered by the Free Fees Scheme) Applications administered by CAO Examples are UCC, CIT, UL, WIT There approx 1300 + courses on offer 16

Entry Requirements n When choosing Leaving Certificate subjects great care must be taken as

Entry Requirements n When choosing Leaving Certificate subjects great care must be taken as the choices of subjects made now may determine 3 rd level and career options in 2 years time. n Students can make the mistake when choosing their subjects of not picking subjects they may specifically need later n Good subject choice allows students to keep options open when other factors have been taken into account such as interest, ability, likelihood of wanting to pursue a course after school n Regardless of how many points a student gets in the LC, they will be ineligible to even apply for a course if they have not met it’s “Course Entry Requirements” 17

Entry to HEI 3 Factors Minimum Entry Requirements Specific Entry Requirements (may also involve

Entry to HEI 3 Factors Minimum Entry Requirements Specific Entry Requirements (may also involve interviews, portfolios etc) Points 18

Minimum Entry Requirements n n There are Minimum Entry Requirements to be met for

Minimum Entry Requirements n n There are Minimum Entry Requirements to be met for all HEIs. Most of these revolve around the core subjects of Irish, English, Maths and a modern continental language Even within HEIs these differ, so it is important to check them out on the college websites For example, generally for universities and honours degrees elsewhere, you need 2 H 5 (that is at least two subjects over 50% in Higher Level papers) and at least 4 O 6/H 7 (that is at least 4 40% in Ordinary Level papers) to in some cases include Irish, English, Maths and another language. 19

CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE (French) Ø SUBJECT REQUIRED FOR ENTRY INTO NUI COLLEGES (EXEMPTIONS) Ø NOT

CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE (French) Ø SUBJECT REQUIRED FOR ENTRY INTO NUI COLLEGES (EXEMPTIONS) Ø NOT REQUIRED FOR NURSING IN ANY OF THE UNIVERSITIES. Ø NOT REQUIRED FOR ENGINEERING AND SCIENCE DEGREES Ø Io. T’s (LEVEL 6 and 7) DO NOT GENERALLY REQUIRE CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE Ø UL WILL ACCEPT IRISH AND OR CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE 20

Minimum Entry Requirements of major CAO Colleges Institution Minimum grades Required subjects NUI Colleges:

Minimum Entry Requirements of major CAO Colleges Institution Minimum grades Required subjects NUI Colleges: UCD, NUIM, NUIG, RCSI, 2 H 5 + 4 O 6/H 7 O 6 in English, Irish & Modern Language*. UCC 2 H 5 + 4 O 6/H 7 O 6 in English, Irish & Modern language* Trinity College Dublin 3 H 5 + 3 O 6 in Maths, English & another Language Dublin City University 2 H 5 + 4 O 6/H 7 O 6 in Maths, English or Irish University of Limerick 2 H 5 + 4 O 6/H 7 O 6 in Maths, English & Irish or another Lang. Cork Institute of Technology 2 H 5 + 4 O 6/H 7 (H. D. ) 5 O 6 (O. D. or H. C. ) O 6 in Maths, English or Irish Institutes of Technology (L 8) (L 6/7) 2 H 5 + 4 O 6/H 7 (H. D. ) 5 O 6 (O. D. or H. C. ) O 6 in Maths, English or Irish 21

SCIENCE SUBJECTS Ø ONE LABORATORY SCIENCE SUBJECT NEEDED FOR MOST SCIENCE/HEALTHCARE RELATED COURSES Ø

SCIENCE SUBJECTS Ø ONE LABORATORY SCIENCE SUBJECT NEEDED FOR MOST SCIENCE/HEALTHCARE RELATED COURSES Ø MUST BE BIOLOGY FOR § § § HUMAN HEALTH AND DISEASE (TCD) GENETICS (UCC) BEAUTY THERAPY (PLC COURSES) v ADVISABLE FOR NURSING Ø MUST BE CHEMISTRY FOR v § § DENTISTRY (UCC) HUMAN NUTRITION AND DIETETICS (DIT) MEDICINE (UCC) PHARMACY (UCC and TCD) § VETERINARY MEDICINE (UCD) ADVISABLE FOR ALL MEDICINE 22

Appliance of Science 23

Appliance of Science 23

OTHER SUBJECTS SPECIFIC ENTRY REQUIREMENTS Ø Ø Ø BUSINESS, ACCOUNTING, HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY, DCG, ENGINEERING,

OTHER SUBJECTS SPECIFIC ENTRY REQUIREMENTS Ø Ø Ø BUSINESS, ACCOUNTING, HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY, DCG, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE – Generally NOT REQUIRED for basic ENTRY for most courses BUT DESIRABLE if intending to study at Third Level CHECK THEM OUT on www. qualifax. ie (useful tools - minimum entry –subjects) ART AND MUSIC- Again generally NOT REQUIRED as basic entry requirement even if intending to study at Third Level BUT PORTFOLIO (ART) or COMPETENCE TEST (MUSIC) required for entry to Third Level Courses 24

The Points System n n Only when the Minimum and Specific Entry Requirements have

The Points System n n Only when the Minimum and Specific Entry Requirements have been met do points accumulated in the Leaving Cert come into play to decide who gets a place on a course The best SIX results in one sitting of the Leaving Cert Exam will be counted for points purposes 25

Important Points n Technical Drawing/Construction Studies are not needed to do Engineering. Maths and

Important Points n Technical Drawing/Construction Studies are not needed to do Engineering. Maths and Physics are more important. n Art is generally not needed for Art and Design courses. A portfolio is needed however. n For Business courses, Maths is generally a requirement rather than Business subjects. n Music courses require an audition, not the subject n General subjects like History, Geography can be studied without doing for LC 26

Resources to assist in Subject Choice www. qualifax. ie (click on students, then subject

Resources to assist in Subject Choice www. qualifax. ie (click on students, then subject choice, then on n minimum requirements and also choosing a career) n www. careersportal. ie (very comprehensive) Any of the college websites such as www. ucc. ie www. cit. ie www. ul. ie www. csn. ie , etc. The above and such other sites will give specific information on Third Level courses n Last years Points can be found in these websites also or also on www. cao. ie n Information on the % of grades awarded in each subject is available on www. examinations. ie and gives access to past exam papers www. curriculumonline. ie (allows you to see what is involved in the LC subject) n 27

Procedures around Subject Choice n n TY students/parents/guardians can now indicate what 6 subjects

Procedures around Subject Choice n n TY students/parents/guardians can now indicate what 6 subjects they wish to choose. (4 plus 2 extra) via www. clonakiltycc. ie VSware icon These subjects should be given in order of preference The purpose of the open choice is to try to ensure that as many students as possible get as many of their preferred subjects as possible The school tries to ensure that as many students as possible get their choices but students and parents need to be aware there is no guarantee of getting all their preferred subjects 28

Advice on Subject Choice n Do the research – this is hugely important n

Advice on Subject Choice n Do the research – this is hugely important n Remember that ultimately everyone wants the student to get the best possible results in their Leaving Cert so bear this in mind n Be realistic about ability and possible future course and career choice n Closing date for options is March 31 st 2017 n Once Y 5 begins, students should try and stick with a subject and give it their best as too much uncertainty and indecision may be detrimental in the long term 29