Plant Analogy Helps account for moral growth Knowledge

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Plant Analogy • Helps account for moral growth – Knowledge as discriminating ability •

Plant Analogy • Helps account for moral growth – Knowledge as discriminating ability • (branching) not guided by language – And as ease of (moral) action • • • Explain evil (weeds and environment) Justify liberal politics (soil) Shi-feithis-not this是 非to 智 zhiwisdom – Growth of intuitive responsive motivation – Neo-Confucian moral “metaphysics” and the sage

Issues • Strong-weak choice (Conf. detail) – Weak interpretation plausible, strong needed to defend

Issues • Strong-weak choice (Conf. detail) – Weak interpretation plausible, strong needed to defend against moral reform • Normative result = Mozi (Utilitarian) – Moral psychology for universal concern • Problem: is moral psychology relevant – Can’t get “ought” from “is” – Mencius’ strategies: unique, health, choose!

Two Principles • Link fact & duty: – "Is-ought": “is” does not imply “ought”

Two Principles • Link fact & duty: – "Is-ought": “is” does not imply “ought” • Undermines Mencius’ appeal to nature – "Ought-can: " ought implies can • Is moral reform possible (yes) • Anti-language implications – Avoid 2 roots—foolish man – Good language can inspire but not contribute • Bad language can disrupt and destroy

Questions Coffee Tutorial today w/ questions Back to some Basic concepts (divisions) of philosophy

Questions Coffee Tutorial today w/ questions Back to some Basic concepts (divisions) of philosophy Ethics

Teleological V Deontological • Normative Ethics: Two Types – Teleological & deontological (duty) •

Teleological V Deontological • Normative Ethics: Two Types – Teleological & deontological (duty) • Consequence/result, look forward, do for result • Duty, desert, merit, look backward, for own sake • Deontology v utilitarianism – – Telling truth, keeping promises, justice and freedom Is punishment justified • Grades on examination—result, encouragement, effort? • Christian duties (10 commandments) • Standards apply to aspects of morality – Acts or rules (system)

Mozi Resembles Rule Utility • Evaluate individual actions or “patterns” • Evaluate a tradition

Mozi Resembles Rule Utility • Evaluate individual actions or “patterns” • Evaluate a tradition by how people governed by it act – Actually tradition or 道 discourse dao utilitarian • Tests for Rule v Act Utility – White lies – Keeping Promises – Birth control – War and deterrence

Normative Ethics Classifications Teleological (consequential) Deontological (Duty) Act (situation ethics) Act Utilitarian (Egoist, Mencius

Normative Ethics Classifications Teleological (consequential) Deontological (Duty) Act (situation ethics) Act Utilitarian (Egoist, Mencius (metanationalist etc. ) ethics = intuition) Rule Utilitarian (language, practice, system etc. ) Ten Commandments 3000 禮 li

Daoism: Early History • Hermits and Yang Zhu 楊朱: No theory of 道 but

Daoism: Early History • Hermits and Yang Zhu 楊朱: No theory of 道 but a Daoist attitude • First theoretical Daoist: Shen Dao慎 到 – Natural performance daoguide道 – Sum of all actual performance 道daoguides is the great dao 大 道 • The complete history of the universe – You will follow大 道—no knowledge of 道 needed

Three Determinisms • Logical, Scientific, Fatalistic – What will be A = A •

Three Determinisms • Logical, Scientific, Fatalistic – What will be A = A • Like Parmenides “what is is” • Tautology=true by meaning/grammar – How to be right w/o saying anything • Don’t ___too much; Do what you should do. • Doesn’t entail anything else—free will • Scientific: induction on experience – Things happen by predictable laws (causal) – Generalize: everything predictable in advance

Fatalism • Claim that your decision/will cannot affect the world, outcome, future – Out

Fatalism • Claim that your decision/will cannot affect the world, outcome, future – Out of human control – Argument (one of the above or theological) • Does fatalism follow? – Not from logical determinism—studypass – From causal? Probably not • Soft determinism says free will does not contradict causal predictability • God’s foreknowledge?

慎 到Shen Dao’s Problems • Draws fatalism conclusion – From logical determinism – There

慎 到Shen Dao’s Problems • Draws fatalism conclusion – From logical determinism – There is just one future actual history • The one caused by my (our) actions • Unnatural advice – Knowing & judgment “natural” for humans • Paradox of "abandon knowledge“ – 道 Dao as the object of knowledge • Knowing dao—not needed abandon • Obey it only if you ignore it

Laozi老子 • Textual issues • The Zhuangzi's history – Between Shendao and Zhuangzi •

Laozi老子 • Textual issues • The Zhuangzi's history – Between Shendao and Zhuangzi • Abandon knowledge w/o relying on fatalism – Argument from freedom from social control – Spontaneity

Analysis of "Knowledge" • Discourse 道 daos: come in opposites – Names 名(opposites) –

Analysis of "Knowledge" • Discourse 道 daos: come in opposites – Names 名(opposites) – Distinctions (implied: one per pair) – Desires 欲 • Innovation in seeing desires generated by names/distinctions – 為 weideem: do action

Problem: Same Paradox? • Distinction of natural and conventional desires – Forms of social

Problem: Same Paradox? • Distinction of natural and conventional desires – Forms of social constraint – Language distorts by gross distinction while there are infinite shades in nature • • • Desire to be natural Act on the desire (forgetting) 無 為 wulack weideem: do a paradox – Wu-wei and yet wu-bu-wei無不為 – no concept guided action

No Constant Dao • 道可道非常道 Any dao that guides is not constant dao-ing •

No Constant Dao • 道可道非常道 Any dao that guides is not constant dao-ing • Because based on 名 and – 名可名非常名 Any name that names is not constant name-ing • Negative 道 daoguide by emphasizing opposite virtues – Passive, lower, water, cool, submissive, female – Constant 道 daoguide ? Unspeakable?

Relevance to Mencius • The intuitions that Confucians think are natural are socially cultivated

Relevance to Mencius • The intuitions that Confucians think are natural are socially cultivated – Burial, filial piety, attitudes to authority – Status, wealth, style • Hong Kong slavery – Innate天 道 is very thin • Eat, sleep, children, farm, small villages

Common Anti-language Problem • 墨 辯 Mohist semantic analysis: – To say “language bad”

Common Anti-language Problem • 墨 辯 Mohist semantic analysis: – To say “language bad” is bad – Paradox of the liar • This sentence is false • All Sentences are false – Not a paradox – But false • Challenge to Zhuangzi

Puzzle • All language distorts the 道 dao

Puzzle • All language distorts the 道 dao

Zhuangzi: Textual Issues • Relation to Laozi – Probably earlier – No contact or

Zhuangzi: Textual Issues • Relation to Laozi – Probably earlier – No contact or knowledge (mostly later students) – Project a similarity of focus • Construction of desires from language/culture • Relation to School of Names名 家 closer – Friend of 惠 施 Hui Shi • Deals with anti-language paradox better

Pipes of 天tian nature: sky • Human voices and arguing about philosophy is natural

Pipes of 天tian nature: sky • Human voices and arguing about philosophy is natural – Like birds tweeting and frogs croaking • Gives Yangzhu, Mozi and Mencius what they want – Not worth anything – Want authority over rivals and天tiannature: sky fails • Hint from Shen Dao—no normative content • Pure fact—no ought/value

Priority of Dao over天 • Must presuppose a 道 daoguide • For a Daoist,

Priority of Dao over天 • Must presuppose a 道 daoguide • For a Daoist, 道 daoguide the authority, not 天 tiannature: sky – The cosmos doesn't make guiding judgments--all from a 道daoguide – Cannot escape responsibility for our own dao judgments • • Should I follow天 tiannature: sky? No matter what authority

Refutation of Mencius • Should follow our hearts and should follow 天 tiannature: sky

Refutation of Mencius • Should follow our hearts and should follow 天 tiannature: sky (性 xingnature ) – All organs are equally natural • C. f. Mencius' weeds – How do you是shithis: right a favorite? • Rely on the心 xinheart-mind? Begs the question • Take turns or have no ruler?