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November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 November 2007 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2007 -11 -12 Authors: Name Address Affiliations Phone Email Donald Eastlake 3 rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA 01752 USA Motorola +1 -508 -786 -7554 Donald. Eastlake@motorola. com Submission 1 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 IEEE 802. 11 s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Atlanta, Georgia 12 -15 November, 2007 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3 rd. , Motorola Donald. Eastlake@motorola. com +1 -508 -786 -7554 Technical Editor: vacant Secretary: Stephen Rayment, Bel. Air Networks Submission 2 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Venue Hyatt Regency, Atlanta, Georgia Submission 3 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 General Flow of the TGs Meeting • Monday – – Ad Hoc meeting Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Tuesday – Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Wednesday – Security Presentations – Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft • Thursday – – Submission TGs Process Discussion Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Go to Letter Ballot? Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes 4 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Monday, 12 November 2007 8: 00 -9: 30, Dunwoody Room • • Call ad hoc meeting to Order Manual Attendance Recording Selection of Secretary: Jan Kruys Review of IEEE 802 and 802. 11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Affiliation, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Miscellaneous Announcements • Ad Hoc Agenda approved • Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot – Draft D 1. 07 – “Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802. 11 Letter Ballot 93”, 11 -07/23 r 50 Submission 5 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Monday, 12 November 2007 8: 00 -9: 30, Dunwoody Room • Technical Editor: no candidates • Straw poll as to who was interested in working on comment resolution in which area: – General – 1, Security – 5, MAC – 7, RFI – 3 • Divide into three subgroups for ad hoc comment resolution with coordinators as follows – Security – Jesse Walker – MAC – Michelle Gong – RFI – Guenael Strutt • Recombined • Adjourn ad hoc meeting Submission 6 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Monday, 12 November 2007 16: 00 -18: 00, Dunwoody Room • • • Call meeting to Order Automated Attendance Recording Review of IEEE 802 and 802. 11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Affiliation, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Miscellaneous Announcements Agenda Approved (unanimous) Minutes Approved (all unanimous): – September 2007 (Waikoloa) Meeting Minutes, 11 -07/2495 r 0 – 12 November 2007 Ad Hoc Meeting Minutes, 11 -07/2806 r 1 – Teleconference Minutes • 26 September 2007, 11 -07/2617 r 0 • 10, 17, 24, 31 October 2007, 11 -07/2638 r 0, 11 -07/2650 r 0, 11 -07/2666 r 0, 117/2698 r 0 • (minutes for 7 November not on server, approval postponed) Submission 7 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Important Stuff • Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. – Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http: //standards. ieee. org/faqs/affiliation. FAQ. html – Anti-Trust: http: //standards. ieee. org/resources/antitrust-guidelines. pdf – IEEE Ethics: http: //www. ieee. org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics. html – Letter of Assurance Form: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat/loa. pdf – IEEE Patent Committee: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat/index. html – IEEE Patent Policy: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat-slideset. ppt – Patent FAQ: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat/faq. pdf Submission 8 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Miscellaneous Announcements • Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! – The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. • Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! • Individual membership – In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. • Photographs and Recordings – No sound recordings are permitted at 802. 11 WG or TG meetings. – No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. • Media – Press and Analyst briefings – Only the 802. 11/. 15/. 18/. 19/. 22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Submission 9 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Affiliation • It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, 5. 2. 1. 5 as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. • Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw 5. 2. 1. 1 – Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE -SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Submission 10 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Affiliation Policy • Requirement to declare affiliation at all standards development meetings and recorded in the minutes – Affiliation not necessarily same as employer – Declaration requirement may be familiar to some 802 WGs, though WG declaration process may evolve • 11. What if I refuse to disclose my affiliation? – As outlined in IEEE-SA governance documents, you will lose certain rights. In a working group where voting rights are gained through attendance, no attendance credit will be granted if affiliation isn’t declared. Similarly, voting rights are to be removed if affiliation isn’t declared. • Affiliation declaration will be added to Sponsor ballot • http: //standards. ieee. org/faqs/affiliation. FAQ. html Submission 11 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Automated Attendance Recording • Go to http: //newton. events. ieee. org (Documents: http: //802 server. events. ieee. org/ or 172. 16. 0. 10 or just http: //newton) – Create a profile – Claim attendance credit for each session. • Only “create a profile” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. • You have to log in every session! • Do NOT use 802 wirelessworld for anything! Submission 12 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Monday, 12 November 2007 16: 00 -18: 00, Dunwoody Room • Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot – Draft D 1. 07 – “Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802. 11 Letter Ballot 93”, 11 -07/23 r 50 • Technical Editor • Presentation and Discussion on Process – “TGs Process, November”, Donald Eastlake 3 rd, 11 -07/2812 r 1 • “Broadcast MDA”, Alexander Safonov (IITP), Yongho Seok (LG Electronics), 11 -07/2575 r 2. – Straw Poll: Should a vote on this be scheduled for tomorrow moring? • Yes: 8 No: 1 Submission 13 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Monday, 12 November 2007 16: 00 -18: 00, Dunwoody Room • “High Throughput Mesh”, Alexander Safonov (IITP), Yongho Seok (LG Electronics), 11 -07/2700 r 0. – Straw Poll: Should a vote on this be scheduled for tomorrow morning? • Yes: 29 No: 0 • “Suggested PICS Proforma Table Additions”, Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), 11 -07/1991 r 2. – Unanimous consent to schedule vote for tomorrow. • “Power efficient and unified 802. 11 s solution”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 11 -07/2646 r 1. • “Mesh Power Save”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 11 -07/2717 r 1. – After both of the presentations immediately above, there was substantial discussion and it was suggested there should be further discussion of updated submissions later in the week. • Recess until 8: 00 Tuesday Submission 14 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Tuesday, 13 November 2007 8: 00 -10: 00, Dunwoody Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Approval of Minutes – 7 November 2007 Teleconference, 11 -07/2804 r 0 • Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11 -072723 -00 -000 s-normative-text-for-broadcast-mda. doc, resolving CID 494 with “Counter”, and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft. – Moved: Submission Seconded: 15 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Tuesday, 13 November 2007 8: 00 -10: 00, Dunwoody Room • Moved, to adopt normative text in document 11 -07 -2732 -00 -000 snormative-text-for-high-throughput-mesh. doc, changing the resolution of CIDs 235, 4206, and 4228 from “Reject” to “Accept” and CIDs 1935 and 3745 from “Reject” to “Counter” , and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft. – Moved: Seconded: • Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11 -07/1991 r 2 resolving CIDs and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft. – Moved: Seconded: • Resolution of comments and improvement in the Draft • Recess until 8: 00 Wednesday Submission 16 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Pending Presentations • “MAC Qo. S”, Mathilde Benveniste (Avaya). • “Analyzing the Beacon Collision Probability in Mesh Networks”, Michelle Gong (Intel), 11 -07/2813 r 1. • “Common TSF Issues, Zhen Xie (Atheros), 1107/2518 r 2. • “Mesh Neighbour List Element”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 1107/2817 r 0. • “MBCA and Beacon Timing Element Clean Up”, Kazuyuki Sakoda 11 -07/2819 r 0. • “Power efficient and unified 802. 11 s solution”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 11 -07/2646 r 2. • “Mesh Power Save”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 1107/2717 r 2. Submission 17 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Wednesday, 14 November 2007 8: 00 -10: 00, Dunwoody Room • • • Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations Resolution of comments and improvement in the Draft Recess until 13: 30 Submission 18 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Wednesday, 14 November 2007 13: 30 -15: 30, Dunwoody Room • • Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of comments and improvement in the Draft Recess until 10: 30 Thursday Submission 19 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Thursday, 15 November 2007 10: 30 -12: 30, Dunwoody Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • Discussion and Votes re Process – “TGs Process, November”, Donald Eastlake 3 rd, 11 -07/2812 r 2. • Moved, to Close all remaining open comments in 11 -07/23 r. TBD with the disposition Reject and the Resolution Note “TGs believes that it needs additional input through a WG Letter Ballot. ” – Moved: Seconded: • Moved, to direct the Technical Editor to produce a revised Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before this motion. – Moved: Submission Seconded: 20 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Thursday, 15 November 2007 10: 30 -12: 30, Dunwoody Room • Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the 802. 11 Working Group: “Moved, to authorize a 15 Day Procedural Letter Ballot to approve sending 802. 11 s Draft D 2. 0 to 30 -Day Letter Ballot. ” – Moved: Submission Seconded: 21 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 Thursday, 15 November 2007 10: 30 -12: 30, Dunwoody Room • If going to Letter Ballot fails: – Straw Poll on when to hold teleconferences: – Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences from November through January meetings, starting 28 November through 21 January, Wednesdays, except during the Taipei meeting, at TBDam/pm. • Moved: Seconded: – Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again? • Other Technical Presentations • Adjourn sine die • TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Submission 22 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 [Reference Information] • Updated version at http: //standards. ieee. org/board/nes/projects/80211 s. pdf. – Original PAR for IEEE 802. 11 ESS Mesh: 11 -04/54 r 2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802. 11 ESS Mesh: 11 -04/56 r 1. • Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D 1. 07: – 11 -07/23 r 50: Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802. 11 Letter Ballot 93 • Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D 0. 01 was based: – 11 -06/328 r 0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to 802. 11 TGs – 11 -06/329 r 3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to 802. 11 TGs Overview • Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts) – – – Submission 11 -04/1477 r 4: Terms and Definitions for 802. 11 s 11 -04/1174 r 13: Functional Specification and Scope 11 -04/1175 r 10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists 11 -04/662 r 16: Usage Models 11 -04/1543 r 4: Informative Reference Bibliography for 802. 11 s 23 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
November 2007 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -07/2630 r 3 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] • Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes – September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11 -07/2495 r 0 • September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11 -07/2413 r 0 – July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11 -07/2277 r 0 • June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11 -07/2009 r 0 – May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11 -07/746 r 0 • April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11 -07/559 r 1 – March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11 -07/413 r 0 • February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11 -07/240 r 0 – January 2007, London, England, 11 -07/92 r 0 – November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11 -06/1788 r 0 • November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11 -06/1652 r 1 • – September 2006, Melbourne, Australia, 11 -06/1565 r 0 Recent Teleconference Minutes • 25 July 2007, 11 -07/2281 r 0 • 8, 15, 22, 29 August 2007, 11 -07/2300 r 0, 11 -07/2325 r 0, 11 -07/2337 r 0, 11 -07/2356 r 0 • 5 September 2007, 11 -07/2377 r 1 Submission 24 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola
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