NIR Meeting Feb2004 JPNIC Open Policy Meeting Update

2 Contents • • • Policy Making in JP Discussions at JP-OPM Discussions on

3 Introduction This presentation introduces discussions and issues in 5 th JPNIC Open Policy

Policy Making in JP Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

5 How it works with AP-OPM Proposals from the JP Community Proposals from the AP Community 3. AP consensus 1. AP consensus AP-OPM 2. proposal JP-OPM 1. JP consensus 4. report 5. AP re-consensus AP-OPM 2. report 4. counter-proposal JP-OPM 3. JP consensus Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

The Current Policy Making Process in JP JP Community Proposal CFP Consensus JPNIC Review 6 JPNIC Secretariat IP Committee Policy Advisory Council JP-OPM Online Discussions ip-users ML Approval JPNIC Board Implementation Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

7 JPNIC Open Policy Meetings • Held 2/year, 70 attendees/average • Attendees – Mostly ISPs, but also academic institutions, IT product vendors, etc • Registration – open to anyone, free of charge • Session: – Address Policy SIG Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

JPNIC Open Policy Meeting 5 Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

9 JPNIC 5 • • Date: 5 th Dec 2004 9: 30 -14: 30(lunch 1 hr) Place: Pacifico Yokohama, Japan Attendees: 105 Presentations: – Information : 5 – Proposal: 1 • Consensus – Revision of the JPNIC documents based on APNIC policy changes Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

10 Discussions at JP-OPM Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

11 JPNIC 5 Agenda 1. 2. 3. 4. JPNIC Update APNIC Open Policy Meeting Issues Lame Delegations Report Starting an Agent Service: Portable Assignments for Small Multi-homed Networks 5. IPv 6 Policy Planning Team Update 6. RIRs & NIRs Update 7. Revision of the JPNIC Policy Document(*) = Proposal Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

12 Major Discussions Topics • Privacy of customer assignment records • The change of Minimum Allocation size • Replacing end user’s admin-c by LIR’s contact Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

Privacy of Customer Assignment Records 13 • Introduced the consensus in AP • JPNIC proposed an alternative protection method • JPNIC partially protects whois private info already • All assignment records are publicly accessible, but necessary care will be taken Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

14 Comments on Privacy of Customer Assignment Records(I) • Needs of privacy protection – No clear consensus – End-users should bear the equal responsibility? • The role of whois database – Restricted to contact information directory? …Or More? • Responsibility of LIRs – How far should LIRs take the responsibility? – Restricted to contacts? …Or more? Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

Comments on Privacy of Customer Assignment Records(II) 15 • Request for co-ordination with APNIC

16 Outcome • No clear consensus • Continue discussions on the ML Copyright ©

The Change of Minimum Allocation Size 17 Introduced the idea without specifying size nor

Commnets on the Change of Minimum Allocation Size 18 • Support the idea of lowering the barrier, but should ensure the CIDR structure • Should not encourage end user networks without technical reasons to receive allocations Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

Comments on the Change of Minimum Allocation Size 19 • Alternative suggestions: – lowering the criteria but keeping the allocation size unchanged(/20) – Apply multi-homing criteria instead of criteria based on address size • Distinction between portable assignments and allocations must be clarified Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

20 Outcome Support the idea, but more discussions necessary about the method Copyright ©

Replacing admin-c with LIR’s Contact 21 • Already implemented in operations • Documented in the APNIC policy • Proposed to describe it in the JPNIC policy Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

22 Outcome • Consensus reached at the meeting for a consistent policy with APNIC However…. • Further discussions took place on the ML • Received comments against the proposal from some LIRs outside the ML Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

23 Other Discussions • Applying AD-ratio in IPv 4 allocations – Utilization should be evaluated for each POP instead of applying AD-ratio in IPv 4 • Lame delegation checks – JPNIC should provide info about lame servers – JPNIC secretariat will consider a specific implementation method Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

24 Summary of the meeting • 4 hours was too short • Queue at microphones! New • Introducing proposals before the AP consensus • Questionnaire showed interests in making proposals New • Held on the same day as LIR Meeting to encourage LIR participation Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

Discussions on ip-users ML Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

26 Discussion Topics on the ML • Replacing admin-c by LIR’s contact • APNIC

Replacing admin-c by LIR’s Contact 27 • End users should bare the equal responsibility • Changes the definition of admin-c if restricting its role as contacts • The responsibility of LIRs is ambiguous – Merely act as a contact? – Makes decision about cutting connections/other actions for abuse complaints? – The implications on legal responsibilities? Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

28 Outcome • JPNIC suspended the implementation • JPNIC will re-define admin-c and make a proposal at the next JP-OPM – Clearly describe that admin-c merely serves as a contact Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

29 APNIC 17 proposals • Translated policy proposals on the SIG ML – Lowering minimum allocation size & criteria – IPv 6 allocations to closed networks – IPv 6 address for IPv 4 networks – Recovery of unused historical resources • No comments so far Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

Definition of the consensus process 30 • No defined process for the meeting consensus　¹　 ML discussions – e. g) discussions on replacing admin-c – No timeframe defined for comments, implementation • Co-ordination with LIRs – Some LIRs feel: • JPNIC should discuss policies with LIRs seperately • More comfortable to comment individually, not on the ML Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

Definition of the consensus process 31 The secretariat holds a working group meeting in

32 Summary • The first meeting to introduce AP proposals in advance • Many non-JPNIC participants spoke out at the meeting • Fundamental issues were raised – the policy development process – co-ordination with LIR meetings Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

33 Future Considerations • Define Policy Development Process – Distinction between JP-OPM &LIR Meetings • Encourage active participation – More proposals from the community – Encourage more LIR participation – Activate the ML • Introduce AP proposals at JP-OPM in advance Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center

34 Future model with AP-OPM Proposals from the JP Community Proposals from the AP Community 3. AP consensus 1. proposal AP-OPM 2. proposal JP-OPM 1. JP consensus 4. report 5. AP consensus AP-OPM 2. report 4. feedback JP-OPM 3. JP consensus Copyright © 2003 Japan Network Information Center