MPE meeting 07042011 Altium Designer capabilities regarding magnet

MPE meeting 07/04/2011 Altium Designer capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 1

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Electronic CAD with Altium Designer Layout editor Schematic editor 3 D Layout viewer Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 2

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Altium Library Database PCB layout Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 3

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Schematic library: how to manage? Import in Altium schematic editor Copy/paste in symbol editor Add connectic and cosmetic Complex component designed with Auto. Cad Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 4

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Schematic symbol properties Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 5

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Schematic wire properties Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 6

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Schematic wire properties in the netlist Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 7

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Import schematic files in Altium • Schematic Files • All previous Protel/Altium Schematic files/libraries • Protel 99 SE Design Database (*. DDB) • P-CAD V 16 or V 17 ASCII Schematic (*. sch) • P-CAD V 16 or V 17 ASCII Schematic Library (*. lia, *. lib) • P-CAD V 15, V 16 or V 17 ASCII PCB (*. pcb) • P-CAD PDIF file (*. pdf) • Circuit. Maker 2000 Design (*. ckt) • Circuit. Maker 2000 Binary USER Library (*. lib) • Or. CAD Layout file (*. max) • Auto. CAD DWG/DXF (*. DWG, *. DXF) (accessed via File» Import) The import of Autocad schematic files is not easy : • problem of scale of the drawing • no possibility in Altium to design on different layers. Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 8

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Export netlist to Spice XSPICE: • developed by the Georgia Tech Research Institute, • based on Berkeley’s SPICE 3 code Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 9

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Generated netlist for Spice Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 10

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Altium circuit simulation The Altium designer-based Circuit Simulator is a true mixed-signal simulator, meaning it can analyze circuits that include both analog and digital devices. The simulator uses an enhanced version of the event-driven XSPICE, based on the SPICE 3 code. It is fully SPICE 3 f 5 compatible, as well as providing support for a range of PSPICE device models. This simulator is availble at CERN but no technical support. It seems that this simulator is not popular at CERN and I cannot find which kind of parameters have to be implemented and which file it can use. What are the limit of this simulator? Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 11

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Meeting with electrical designers EN/EL Moustapha Khouja: • EN/EL people are used to use Auto. Cad 2010 and some extension used for the dimensionning of electrical installation. • they are able to develop small algorythm for creating BOM and maybe netlist Discussion with John Evans for question on Altium simulator: • the simulator IS available at CERN with NO technical support • John is not an user of Altium simulator • only few users at CERN Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 12

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Summary (1/2) • Altium software: • Is dedicated to the design of electronic boards • Can be used for other application like electrical schematics, with graphics limitations (wire width, no wire dashed) • The Altium training at CERN is dedicated for the design of electronic boards A specific training has to be organised with Altium. • Migration from Auto. CAd to Altium will take time to be familiar with Altium • Schematic library • Shall be totaly created for all components • Design of complex components has to be designed in Autocad and import to the Altium schematic editor • Possibility to create links to datasheet, drawing or web pages in the properties of the schematic symbol can be an advantage • Schematic wire properties • Can be defined for every wire in the schematic (name, cable’s section, lenght…) and the information are available in the Altium created netlist Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 13

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Summary (2/2) • Import files in Altium designer: • Auto. Cad schematic already done can be import in Altium, but there is no possibility to convert Auto. Cad lines to Altium wire. All the schematics has to be redraw in Altium Designer with graphical compromises • Export a netlist for Spice simulator: • Seems possible but complicated. This point must be tested by Spice user for evaluation • Altium simulator: • Is fully SPICE 3 f 5 compatible, can be interesting for this project? • Is available at CERN, but there is no technical support • Is not very popular at CERN maybe due to the complexity of the simulator? • What are the limits of the simulator? • Other tools for schematic design? • Moustapha Khouja (EN/EL) mentioned Auto. Cad, Auto. Cad electrical, Auto. Cad with SE 3000 extension or specific algorythme developped by EN/EL • John Evans mentioned Tracelec, SEE electrical and Cyber Harness simulator Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 14

Altium Designer - capabilities regarding magnet circuit drawings Conclusion The use of Altium Designer for this project is possible, but it may need efforts The definition of the needs, of the objectifs and for the acceptable compromises for this project will be the main topics to discuss before starting Raphaël Berberat 07. 04. 2011 15