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March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 March 2008 Mesh

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 March 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2008 -03 -18 Authors: Name Address Affiliations Phone Email Donald Eastlake 3 rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA 01752 USA Motorola +1 -508 -786 -7554 donald. eastlake@motorola. com Submission 1 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 IEEE 802. 11

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 IEEE 802. 11 s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Orlando, Florida 17 -20 March, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3 rd. , Motorola Donald. Eastlake@motorola. com +1 -508 -786 -7554 Temporary Technical Editor: Avinash Joshi, Motorola Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer, Philips Submission 2 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Venue Caribe Royale

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Venue Caribe Royale Suites, Orlando, Florida Submission 3 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 General Flow of

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 General Flow of the TGs Meeting • Monday Morning Ad Hoc Meeting – Administrivia and Status – TGs Process Presentation – Improvement of the Draft • Tuesday – – Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Improvement of the Draft Security Presentations • Wednesday – Improvement of the Draft • Thursday – TGs Process Discussion – Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Submission 4 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Monday, 17 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Monday, 17 March 2008 9: 30 -11: 00 (Grand Sierra I Room) • Call ad hoc meeting to Order • Dee Denteener appointed as Temporary Recording Secretary • Miscellaneous Announcements • Review of IEEE 802 and 802. 11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Ad hoc meeting Agenda approved • Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot – Draft D 1. 09 – “Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802. 11 Letter Ballot 93”, 11 -07/23 r 55 Submission 5 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Monday, 17 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Monday, 17 March 2008 9: 30 -11: 00 (Grand Sierra I Room) • Presentation and Discussion on Process – “TGs Process, March”, Donald Eastlake 3 rd, 11 -08/320 r 1 • “Enhancements to Mesh Discovery”, Michelle Gong (Intel), 11 -08/TBDr 0 • “Odd Mesh Header”, Javier Cardona (cozybit Inc. ), 1108/341 r 0 – Straw Poll: Should the mesh header by evenly aligned? – No: 0 2*N (16 -bit): 4 4*N (32 -bit): 6 Don’t care: 1 • Adjourn ad hoc meeting. Submission 6 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March 2008 8: 00 -10: 00 (Grand Sierra I Room) • • Call meeting to Order Dee Denteneer appointed Recording Secretary Miscellaneous Announcements Review of IEEE 802 and 802. 11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Agenda approved by unanimous consent • Minutes approved by unanimous consent: – January 2008 Taipei Meeting Minutes, 11 -08/170 r 2 – Monday ad hoc meeting Minutes, 11 -08/347 r 0 • Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot – 802. 11 s Draft D 1. 09 – “Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802. 11 Letter Ballot 93”, 11 -07/23 r 55 Submission 7 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Important Stuff •

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Important Stuff • Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. – Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http: //standards. ieee. org/faqs/affiliation. FAQ. html – Anti-Trust: http: //standards. ieee. org/resources/antitrust-guidelines. pdf – IEEE Ethics: http: //www. ieee. org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics. html – Letter of Assurance Form: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat/loa. pdf – IEEE Patent Committee: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat/index. html – IEEE Patent Policy: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat-slideset. ppt – Patent FAQ: http: //standards. ieee. org/board/pat/faq. pdf Submission 8 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Miscellaneous Announcements •

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Miscellaneous Announcements • Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! – The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. • Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! • Individual membership – In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. • Photographs and Recordings – No sound recordings are permitted at 802. 11 WG or TG meetings. – No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. • Media – Press and Analyst briefings – Only the 802. 11/. 15/. 18/. 19/. 22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Submission 9 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Affiliation • It

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Affiliation • It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, 5. 2. 1. 5 as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. • Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw 5. 2. 1. 1 – Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE -SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Submission 10 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March 2008 8: 00 -10: 00 (Grand Sierra I Room) • PAR Extension – Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the 802. 11 Working Group: • Moved, to request 802 Executive Committee to approve a request to extend the P 802. 11 s PAR, which currently expires 2008 -12 -31, for 2 years for the following reason: • “Mesh is a complex enhancement to 802. 11 s has made enormous progress and its Draft has been subject to a Working Group Letter Ballot. Although this LB failed, all comments submitted have been resolved resulting in major improvements in the Draft and a new Letter Ballot has been approved. We estimate that completing Letter Ballot, Sponsor Ballot, and higher level approvals will take until late 2009 or possibly early 2010. ” – Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Guido Hiertz – Yes: 13 No: 0 Abstain: 4 (passes) • Presentation and Discussion on Process – “TGs Process, March”, Donald Eastlake 3 rd, 11 -08/320 r 1 Submission 11 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March 2008 8: 00 -10: 00 (Grand Sierra I Room) • “Enhancements to Mesh Discovery”, Michelle Gong (Intel), 1108/357 r 1 • “Odd Mesh Header”, Javier Cardona (cozybit Inc. ), 11 -08/341 r 3 – Straw Poll: Mesh Header size for alignment? – 4*N (32 -bit): 13 2*N (16 -bit): 5 Leave as is (8 -bit): 6 Don’t care: 5 • “Avoiding Interactions with Lazy WDS Equipment”, Javier Cardona (cozybit Inc. ), 11 -08/278 r 5 – Straw Poll: Would you support the proposed modifications to mesh broadcast frames as presented in 11 -08/278 r 5? – Yes: 14 No: 2 Don’t know/care: 16 • “Password Authentication for Mesh Points”, Dan Harkins (Aruba), 1108/45 r 3 (ppt), 11 -08/299 r 0 (doc) • Recess until 13: 30 Submission 12 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13: 30 -15: 30 (Grand Sierra I Room) • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • “Can RTS/CTS remedy problems caused by single-channel wireless meshes? ”, Mathile Benveniste (Avaya), 11 -08/292 r 0 / 11 -08/291 r 0 (Performance comparison of RTS/CTS and ‘Express Forwarding’ for mesh) – Straw Poll: RTS/CTS cannot solve the single channel mesh problems [described in the presentation just given]? – Agree: 6 Disagree: 2 Not Sure: 26 • Recess until 16: 00 Submission 13 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16: 00 -18: 00 (Grand Sierra I Room) • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, to direct the editor to incorporate the text from: 11 -08 -0299 -00 -000 s-password-authentication-for-meshpoints. doc into the 11 s draft. – Moved: Dan Harkins Seconded: – Yes: No: Abstain: • Security Presentations • Improvement of the Draft • Recess until 13: 30 Wednesday Submission 14 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Automated Attendance Recording

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Automated Attendance Recording • Go to http: //newton/11/attendance (Documents: http: //802 server. events. ieee. org/ or 172. 16. 0. 10 or just http: //newton) – Sign-in – Claim attendance credit for each session. • Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. • You have to log in every session! • Do NOT use 802 wirelessworld for anything! Submission 15 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Pending Security Presentations

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Pending Security Presentations • “Authentication and Key Management of MP with multiple radios”, Amy Zhang (Huawei), 11 -08/317 r 1 Submission 16 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Pending Presentations •

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Pending Presentations • Power save for wireless mesh, Mathilde Benvensite (Avaya) • “Normative Text for Proxy Frame Format”, Yongho Seok (LGE), 11 -08/306 r 1 Submission 17 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Wednesday, 19 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13: 30 -15: 30 (Grand Sierra I Room) • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Improvement of the Draft • Recess until 13: 30 Thursday Submission 18 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Thursday, 20 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Thursday, 20 March 2008 13: 30 -15: 30 (Grand Sierra I Room) • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • Improvement of the Draft • Discussion and Votes re Process – “TGs Process, March”, Donald Eastlake 3 rd, 11 -08/320 r 2 • Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the 802. 11 Working Group: “Moved, to renumber the current 802. 11 s draft as D 2. 0 and authorize a 30 -Day Letter Ballot asking the question ‘Should 802. 11 Draft D 2. 0 be sent to Sponsor Ballot? ’. ” – Moved: Seconded: – Yes: No: Abstain: • Moved, to schedule an ad hoc meeting May 7 -9, location TBD, to resolve comments from the second 802. 11 s Letter Ballot. – Moved: Seconded: – Yes: No: Abstain: Submission 19 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Thursday, 20 March

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 Thursday, 20 March 2008 13: 30 -15: 30 (Grand Sierra I Room) • Moved, to authorize bi-weekly teleconferences from April 16 th through July 23 rd, Wednesdays, except during face-to-face meetings, at TBDam/pm. – Moved: Seconded: • Other Technical Presentations • Adjourn sine die • TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Submission 20 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 [Reference Information] •

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 [Reference Information] • Updated PAR at http: //standards. ieee. org/board/nes/projects/802 -11 s. pdf. – Original PAR for IEEE 802. 11 ESS Mesh: 11 -04/54 r 2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802. 11 ESS Mesh: 11 -04/56 r 1. • Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D 1. 08: – 11 -07/23 r 55: Resolution of comments received during IEEE 802. 11 Letter Ballot 93 • Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D 0. 01 was based: – 11 -06/328 r 0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to 802. 11 TGs – 11 -06/329 r 3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to 802. 11 TGs Overview • TGs Technical Editor through Draft D 1. 08: – W. Steven Conner, Intel Submission 21 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 [Earlier Meeting Minutes]

March 2008 doc. : IEEE P 802. 11 -08/210 r 7 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] • Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes – January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11 -08/170 r 2 – November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11 -07/2826 r 1 – September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11 -07/2495 r 0 • September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11 -07/2413 r 0 – July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11 -07/2277 r 0 • June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11 -07/2009 r 0 – May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11 -07/746 r 0 • April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11 -07/559 r 1 – March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11 -07/413 r 0 • February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11 -07/240 r 0 • – January 2007, London, England, 11 -07/92 r 0 Recent Teleconference Minutes • 21 November 2007, 11 -07/2934 r 0 • 9 January 2008, 11 -08/41 r 0 Submission 22 Donald Eastlake 3 rd, Motorola