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Good morning, I am Tamás FENYVESI 1

Good morning, I am Tamás FENYVESI 1

Good morning, I am Tamás FENYVESI 2

Good morning, I am Tamás FENYVESI 2

The medical interview Anamnesis αναμνησις The main purpose: to gather all basic information pertinent

The medical interview Anamnesis αναμνησις The main purpose: to gather all basic information pertinent to the patient’s illness, and the patient’s adaptation to illness. Tamás Fenyvesi 3

What is spoken of as a ‘clinical picture’ is not just a photograph of

What is spoken of as a ‘clinical picture’ is not just a photograph of a man sick in bed; it is an impressionistic painting of the patient surrounded by his home, his work, his relations, his friends, his joys, sorrows, hopes, and fears. (Peabody, 1927) 4

What the patient thinks is happening, what kind of impact does the illnnes bear

What the patient thinks is happening, what kind of impact does the illnnes bear on work, family, financial situation. 5

Communication is the key to a successful interview. Ask questions freely. Permit the patient

Communication is the key to a successful interview. Ask questions freely. Permit the patient to tell his/her story in his/her own words. 6

If the story is very vague use direct questions: “How…” “Where…” “When…” is better

If the story is very vague use direct questions: “How…” “Where…” “When…” is better than “Why…” Patients like to respond to questions in a way that will satisfy the doctor! 7

Treat the patient with respect, take care not to contradict the pt. You should

Treat the patient with respect, take care not to contradict the pt. You should refrain from trying to impose your own moral standards on the pt. 8

Remember the „rule of five vowels” Audition: listen carefully Evaluation: sorting out of relevant

Remember the „rule of five vowels” Audition: listen carefully Evaluation: sorting out of relevant Inquiry: additional question in the relevant problems Observation: notice…. . . nonverbal communication (b. l. ) Understanding: the patient’s concerns 9

Beware!!! The management may have a different approach 10

Beware!!! The management may have a different approach 10

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The medical interview is the basis of the good doctorpatient relationship Flexible - spontaneous

The medical interview is the basis of the good doctorpatient relationship Flexible - spontaneous - not interrogating It is a powerful diagnostic tool. 12

Conducting an interview 1. Greeting and introduction “Mr. Smith, I’m John Taylor a medical

Conducting an interview 1. Greeting and introduction “Mr. Smith, I’m John Taylor a medical student. I’ve been asked to interview and examine you. ” “Dear” or “Grandpa” are not to be used. 13

2. Start with a very general “open-ended” question e. g. : “What problem has

2. Start with a very general “open-ended” question e. g. : “What problem has brought you to the hospital? ” Do not start with reading of previous medical reports!! Persue the problems with more specific open-ended questions: “Tell me more about your chest pain. ” 14

3. Direct questions to specific facts learned during the openended questions: where? when? how?

3. Direct questions to specific facts learned during the openended questions: where? when? how? 15

 Symptoms (what the patient feels, e. g. pain) are considered in the classic

Symptoms (what the patient feels, e. g. pain) are considered in the classic „seven dimensions”: 1. Bodily location: “Where in your back? ” “Do you feel it anywhere else? ” 2. Quality: “What does it feel like? ” “Was it sharp, dull or aching? ” 16

3. Quantity: “How many pills do you use? ” “What do you mean by

3. Quantity: “How many pills do you use? ” “What do you mean by a lot? ” 4. Chronology: “When did you first notice it? ” “How long did it last? ” “Have you had the pain since that time? ” 17

5. Setting: “Does it ever occur at rest? ” “Do you ever get the

5. Setting: “Does it ever occur at rest? ” “Do you ever get the pain when you are emotionally upset? ” 6. Provocative: “What seems to bring on the pain? ” 7. Palliative: “What do you do to make it better? ” 18

Question types to be avoided 1. Yes or no question in general problems: ”

Question types to be avoided 1. Yes or no question in general problems: ” is your work satisfying? ” The patient may want to please the doctor 2. Suggestive question: “Do you feel the pain in your left arm, when you get it in your chest? ” 19

(avoid) 3. Why question: They may carry tones of accusation. “Why did you wait

(avoid) 3. Why question: They may carry tones of accusation. “Why did you wait so long? ” 4. Multiple question: “How many brothers and sisters you have and do they have…? ” 5. Medical terms in question: “Did you have a paraparesis? ” 20

Do not write extensive notes during the interview, it distracts you from observing the

Do not write extensive notes during the interview, it distracts you from observing the pt’s facial expressions, b. l. 21

Next step Silence - 2 minutes “What are you thinking about? ” “You are

Next step Silence - 2 minutes “What are you thinking about? ” “You are saying…” Facilitation Verbal or non-verbal 22

Confrontation “Why are you so silent? ” “You look upset. ” Interpretation “You seem

Confrontation “Why are you so silent? ” “You look upset. ” Interpretation “You seem to be quite happy about that. ” 23

Support “I understand. ” Reassurance “You are improving steadily. ” Empathy It is understanding,

Support “I understand. ” Reassurance “You are improving steadily. ” Empathy It is understanding, not an emotional state of sympathy. 24

Be aware of the patient who asks, “I have a friend with…. , what

Be aware of the patient who asks, “I have a friend with…. , what do you think about…. . ? ” The question is probably related to the pt’s own concerns. 25

“The doctor may also learn more about the illness from the way the patient

“The doctor may also learn more about the illness from the way the patient tells the story than from the story itself” James B. Herrick 1861 -1954 26

Each patient brings a different challenge: • • • silent overtalkative seductive angry insatiable

Each patient brings a different challenge: • • • silent overtalkative seductive angry insatiable ingratiating aggressive help rejecting demanding 27

Format of the history Source and reliability Patient or else? ‘hetero-anamnesis’ Chief complaint The

Format of the history Source and reliability Patient or else? ‘hetero-anamnesis’ Chief complaint The patient’s brief statement why he/she sought medical attention. History of present illness What, when, how, where, which, who and why 28

Past medical history General state of health Past illnesses Hospitalizations Injuries Surgery Allergies Immunisations

Past medical history General state of health Past illnesses Hospitalizations Injuries Surgery Allergies Immunisations 29

Substance abuse* Diet Sleep patterns Current medication *In Hungary the most common substance abuse

Substance abuse* Diet Sleep patterns Current medication *In Hungary the most common substance abuse is alcoholism and smoking!! You must ask the question on smoking. 30

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The best questionnaire as a tool for disclosing alcoholism is „CAGE”: “Have you ever

The best questionnaire as a tool for disclosing alcoholism is „CAGE”: “Have you ever felt the need to cut down on your drinking? ” “Have people annoyed you by criticising your drinking? ” “Have you ever felt guilty about your drinking? ” “Have you ever taken a morning eye-opener” to steady your nerves? ” 32

Occupational and environmental history Exposure to disease-producing substances More than just listing the jobs

Occupational and environmental history Exposure to disease-producing substances More than just listing the jobs duration protective devices? medical screening? 33

Biographical information Family history Information about the health of the entire family diseases in

Biographical information Family history Information about the health of the entire family diseases in the family 34

Genetic implication hypertension diabetes MI Psychosocial history Education, life style, sexual history (a very

Genetic implication hypertension diabetes MI Psychosocial history Education, life style, sexual history (a very sensitive problem, depends very much on the gender of doctor and patient) 35

Review of systems It Σ all the many symptoms that may have been overlooked

Review of systems It Σ all the many symptoms that may have been overlooked in the history of present illness and in the past medical history. It is best organized from the head down to the extremities. These questions should be asked in a way that the patient could answer just “yes” or “no”. We need further questioning in case of “yes”. 36

At this phase it is best to have a checklist. Customize clinical narrative to

At this phase it is best to have a checklist. Customize clinical narrative to electronic medical record (EMC) 37

An informative example: Cardiac High blood pressure Pain Palpitations Shortness of breath with exertion

An informative example: Cardiac High blood pressure Pain Palpitations Shortness of breath with exertion Shortness of breath when lying flat History of heart attack Rheumatic fever Heart murmur Last ECG 38

Other ? for heart function Fatigue Edema Cyanosis Hemoptysis (caughing up blood) 39

Other ? for heart function Fatigue Edema Cyanosis Hemoptysis (caughing up blood) 39

Chest pain “Where is the pain? ” “Does it radiate? ” “Where? ” “For

Chest pain “Where is the pain? ” “Does it radiate? ” “Where? ” “For how long have you had the pain? ” “Do you have recurrent episodes of pain? ” 40

“What is the duration? ” “How often do you get the pain? ” “What

“What is the duration? ” “How often do you get the pain? ” “What do you do to make it better? ” “What makes it worse? Breathing? Lying flat? moving your arms or neck? ” “How would you describe the pain? ” Let the patient describe it! And then ask: “burning? … pressing? … crushing? … dull? … aching? … throbbing sharp? … constricting? … sticking? ” 41

“Does the pain occur at rest? … with exertion? … after eating? … when

“Does the pain occur at rest? … with exertion? … after eating? … when moving your motional strain? … during with arms? … sex? ” “Is the pain associated with shortness of breath? … palpitations? … nausea or vomiting? … coughing? . . . fever? … leg pain? coughing up blood? ” “When was the last episode of your chest pain? ” 42

Common causes of chest pain Cardiac Coronary artery disease Aortic valvular disease Pulmonary artery

Common causes of chest pain Cardiac Coronary artery disease Aortic valvular disease Pulmonary artery hypertension Mitral valve prolapse Pericarditis HOCM (hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy) 43

Vascular Dissection of the aorta Pulmonary Embolism Pneumonia Pleuritis PTX (pneumothorax) 44

Vascular Dissection of the aorta Pulmonary Embolism Pneumonia Pleuritis PTX (pneumothorax) 44

Musculosceletal Costochondritis (Tietze’s syndrome) Arthritis Muscular spasm Bone tumor Neural Herpes zoster 45

Musculosceletal Costochondritis (Tietze’s syndrome) Arthritis Muscular spasm Bone tumor Neural Herpes zoster 45

Gastrointestinal Ulcer Bowel disease Hiatal hernia (GERD) Pancreatitis Cholecystitis Emotional Anxiety Depression 46

Gastrointestinal Ulcer Bowel disease Hiatal hernia (GERD) Pancreatitis Cholecystitis Emotional Anxiety Depression 46

As you notice: to put the right questions you have to know the typical

As you notice: to put the right questions you have to know the typical symptoms of the suspected disease!! e. g. heart failure: 47

Symptoms of heart failure I. 1. Respiratory signsexertional breathlessness orthopnoe supine or sitting redistribution

Symptoms of heart failure I. 1. Respiratory signsexertional breathlessness orthopnoe supine or sitting redistribution of blood volume pulmonary venous and capillary pressure paroxysmal nocturnal dyspnea-cardiac asthma 1. slow resorption of interstit fluid 2. expansion of thoracic blood volume 3. reduced adrenergic support in sleep 4. nocturnal depression of the resp. center pulmonary edema 48

Symptoms of heart failure II. 2. fatigue and weakness hypoperfusion of the sceletal musculature

Symptoms of heart failure II. 2. fatigue and weakness hypoperfusion of the sceletal musculature hyponatremia caused by diuretics 3. nocturia redistribution of cardiac output at night: RBF 4. liver distension epigastrial dyscomfort This leads you to…. 49

NYHA Classification of HF Class I —No limitation: Ordinary physical activity does not cause

NYHA Classification of HF Class I —No limitation: Ordinary physical activity does not cause undue fatigue, dyspnea, or palpitation. Class II —Slight limitation of physical activity: Such patients are comfortable at rest. Ordinary physical activity results in fatigue, palpitation dyspnea, or angina. Class III —Marked limitation of physical activity: Although patients are comfortable at rest, less than ordinary activity will lead to symptoms. Class IV —Inability to carry on any physical activity without discomfort: Symptoms of congestive failure are present even at rest. With any physical activity, increased discomfort is experienced. 50

Finally to end the interview tactfully (e. g. ): “ shut up, please !”

Finally to end the interview tactfully (e. g. ): “ shut up, please !” 51

The accuracy may be influenced in different ways. The history is not well enough

The accuracy may be influenced in different ways. The history is not well enough reproducible. 1. Different physicians ask the questions in different way, and interpret the answers differently. 52

2 Patients often give frankly different answers to the very same question. student resident

2 Patients often give frankly different answers to the very same question. student resident consultant (awkward situation) Careful use of clear questions is essential. 53

At this stage : review the documentation of past medical history 54

At this stage : review the documentation of past medical history 54

History is the key to doctor-patient relationship and to DIAGNOSIS! 55

History is the key to doctor-patient relationship and to DIAGNOSIS! 55

The written history is a summary of the information obtained during the interview: Chief

The written history is a summary of the information obtained during the interview: Chief complaint History of present illness Past medical history Family history Psychosocial history Review of systems (not in preprinted format) 56

Problems of PC-based history taking: It may serve as a guideline not to forget

Problems of PC-based history taking: It may serve as a guideline not to forget anything. Questionnaires handed to the patient is not history taking!! 57

Robinson JD. , Heritage J. Patient Education and Counseling 2006; 60: 279 58

Robinson JD. , Heritage J. Patient Education and Counseling 2006; 60: 279 58

Robinson JD. , Heritage J. Patient Education and Counseling 2006; 60: 279 59

Robinson JD. , Heritage J. Patient Education and Counseling 2006; 60: 279 59

“ To study the phenomenon of disease without books is to sail an uncharted

“ To study the phenomenon of disease without books is to sail an uncharted sea, while to study books without patients is not to go sea at all” William Osler 60

If you wish to know a bit more: go to Google Results about 4.

If you wish to know a bit more: go to Google Results about 4. 020. 000 entries for “medical history taking” Reached 20 08 2008 www. youtube. com/watch? v=u 1 x 9 M_S 8 f. Cw a video example 61

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“. . . For the secret of the care of the patient is in

“. . . For the secret of the care of the patient is in caring for the patient. ” Francis Weld PEABODY, 1881 -1927 63