Dinosaurs Key to the Age of the Earth

Dinosaurs Key to the Age of the Earth Mike Riddle www. Creation. Training. org

The Common Story Dinosaurs evolved into existence 220 million years ago and became extinct 65 million years ago, long before man evolved.

David Noebel (President of Summit Ministries), The Battle for Truth, 2001, pp. 6 -7. “In fact, Secular Humanism is the dominant worldview in our secular colleges and universities. It has also made gains in many Christian colleges and universities…. Humanists recognize the classroom as a powerful context for indoctrination. ”

Challenge How do you fit dinosaurs into the Bible? Holy e l b i B

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Earth and light Atmosphere Dry land, seas, plants, fruit, trees Sun, moon, stars Day 5 Fish, sea creatures, and birds Day 6 Land animals and people (Adam and Eve)

Were these land animals?

Dinosaurs and people lived at the same time

Dinosaurs and the Bible Job 40: 15 -18 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. He moveth his tail like a cedar His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief of the ways of God:

Leviathan Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Job 41: 19

Bombardier Beetle Chemical storage chamber

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A Critical Question How do scientists use geology to determine time?

Words Stratigraphy process of recording [rock layers] Biostratigraphic Recording life forms [fossil record] Chronostratigraphic Recording time [rock layers]

Geologic Time Scale 2012 Newsletter on Stratigraphy, Vol. 45/2, 171– 188, July 2012, “On Geologic Time Scale” “Continual improvements in data coverage, methodology, and standardization of chronostratigraphic units imply that no geologic time scale can be final. ” “chrono” = time

R. R. Lemon, Ph. D. , Principles of Stratigraphy, 1991, pp. vii-viii. “Modern stratigraphy would be impossible without biostratigraphic [fossil] control…. ” “bio” = life

Fossils and Time U. S. Geological Survey “Keyed to the relative time scale are examples of index fossils, the forms of life which existed during limited periods of geologic time and thus are used as guides to the age of the rocks in which they are preserved. ” https: //pubs. usgs. gov/gip/geotime/fossils. html

Geology and Time ? e t a r u c c A w o H Fossils The key to time Ediacaran Precambrian Radiometric Dating

Fossils and Time 3 Critical Problems 1. Living fossils 2. Out of place fossils 3. Dinosaurs

1 Living Fossils Coelacanth fish No change in 100 million years Elephant Sharks No change in 420 million years Crocodiles No change in 90 million years

Living Fossils Horseshoe Crab No change in 450 million years Nautilus No change in 500 million years

Living Fossils Tuatara Reptile No change in 200 million years Scorpions No change in 360 million years

Living Fossils Jellyfish No change in 500 million years Huntsman Spider No change in 50 million years

Living Fossils Dragon Flies No change in 230 million years Wollemi pine No change in 150 million years

Living Fossils Bats No change in 52 million years Starfish No change in 150 million years

2 Out of Place Fossils A rock layer designated for a specific time period often contains fossils from different time periods. Examples • Flowering plants • Birds • Dinosaurs • Mammals • Bees

Out of Place Fossils Michael Oard (M. S. Atmospheric Science, Researcher in Earth Science) “You may be surprised to learn that fossils are being found in the wrong place all the time. ” Michael Oard (M. S. Atmospheric Science, Researcher in Earth Science), “Are fossils ever found in the wrong place? ”, http: //creation. com/fossils-wrong-place

Fossil Squid A 150 million year old fossil squid was discovered that contained a fresh ink sac. Head

Conclusion: Living Fossils With so many fossils that have not changed over the alleged millions of years, plus so many out-of-place fossils, how can index fossils be trusted as a true indicator of time?

3 Dinosaurs and Time u Dinosaurs are dated by the rock layers. u Dinosaurs are claimed to have lived from 65 to 220 million years ago. u Dinosaurs are used as a classic proof of evolution.

Evidence If there is evidence that dinosaurs lived only a few thousand years ago then the assumptions and methods used to date these fossils are not correct.

T-rex Discovery Elastic tissue Fresh tissue Soft fibrous tissue Red blood cells, fibrous tissue, blood vessels

T-rex Tissue Blood vessels Microscopic structures squeezed out of blood vessels

Dinosaurs and Dating Since the 1990’s scientists have discovered: u Soft tissue in dinosaur bones. u Unfossilized dinosaur bones. u Proteins in dinosaur fossils. u Red blood cells in dinosaur fossils.

Dinosaur DNA In 2012 scientists discovered dinosaur DNA Facts about DNA u DNA is a fragile molecule and breaks down quickly (half-life of 521 years). u DNA stability suggests it could last only thousands of years. u The preservation of dinosaur DNA contradicts evolution.

Dating Dinosaurs - 2012 American Geophysical Union and the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society, Aug, 2012 Carbon-14 (C-14) dating of multiple samples of bone from 8 dinosaurs from Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana revealed that they are only 22, 000 to 39, 000 years old. http: //newgeology. us/ presentation 48. html

Carbon-14 and Dinosaurs In June 1990, two dinosaur bone fragments were submitted to the Department of Geosciences at the University of Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. The identity of the bones were not disclosed. The bones were dated from 10, 000 -16, 000 years old.

Carbon-14 and Dinosaurs Two Triceratops horns excavated in 2012 from a site in Montana were sent to the University of Georgia to be carbon-14 dated. One was dated at 33, 570 years and the other 41, 010 years.

Kevin Anderson (Ph. D. Microbiology), Echoes of the Jurassic, 2016, p. 51. “The presence of original dinosaur tissue and proteins cannot be merely ignored or marginalized…. The strongest and most elegant explanation is that the fossils are not millions of years old. ”

Geology and Time X ow Accurate? H Fossils Ediacaran Precambrian Radiometric Dating

Radiometric Dating Methods What Do They Really Measure? Jonathan Sarfati (Ph. D. Physical Chemistry), The Greatest Hoax on Earth, 2010, p. 201. “Age isn’t really measured, rather certain processes and amounts of materials are measured, and age is inferred via certain assumptions. ”

Radiometric Dating and Assumptions? Vernon Cupps (Ph. D. Nuclear Physics), “Acts & Facts”, December 2014, p. 11 -12. “Of the eight assumptions, none can be considered to rigorously hold in all situations. Therefore, dating by this method is at best a hypothesis concerning the age of any rock suite or mineral; it is certainly not a scientific fact!”

Radiometric Dating Jim Mason (Ph. D. Experimental Nuclear Physics), Evolution’s Achilles’ Heels, 2014, p. 198. “The fact that the radiometric ages for rocks of known ages turn out to be so seriously inaccurate is a strong suggestion that one or more of these assumptions is incorrect. ”

Evidence Kevin Anderson (Ph. D. , Microbiology), Echoes of the Jurassic, 2016, p. 8. “Those who claim the tissue can survive millions of years face the burden of providing a valid explanation. Otherwise, the far more reasonable explanation is that the fossils are simply not that old. ”

Summary Geologic time: Scientists use the fossil record Radiometric dating: • Used to date rocks • Do not give ages • Give inconsistent ages • Based on faulty assumptions Dinosaurs: Scientific evidence supports they lived recently

Evidence Thousands not millions

The Common Perception Christians “Christians are often unaware of the philosophical underpinnings of ‘deep time’ and unknowingly adopt a view that is counter to God’s Word. ” John Reed (Ph. D. Geology), Rocks Aren’t Clocks: A Critique of the Geologic Timescale, Chapter 4: “Philosophical Foundations of the Timescale”, 2013.

Albert Bayles (Th. M. , Ph, D. ) From Creation to the Cross, 1996, p. 27. “If we are going to learn about God through His activity, creation is the best place to start. It was and is the critical event for a person’s worldview. ”

The First 3 Chapters John Mac. Arthur, (Litt. D. , D. D. , President Master’s College and Seminary) “I’m convinced the opening chapters of Genesis are not optional. They establish the vital foundation for everything we believe as Christians. ” John Mac. Arthur (Litt. D. , D. D. , President Master’s College and Seminary), “How Important Is Genesis 1 -3? ”, https: //www. gty. org/library/articles, Aug 27, 2009.

First Three Chapters Michael Man (Ph. D. Biochemistry), Shouchin Man (Ph. D. Biological Chemistry), Creation Magazine, Vol. 39, 2017. “If one can’t believe the first three chapters of the Bible, which speak about Creation and the Fall, why believe the rest of the Bible? ”

Brandon van der Ventel, Ph. D. Physics, Physics “Nuclear Scientist Shares His Creation Faith”, Creation, Vol. 34, No. 4, 2012. “If the story of the fall of man is ‘mythology’ then there is no need for a plan of salvation. ”

A Warning: 2 Timothy 4: 3 -4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

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