APNIC NIR Meeting What is an NIR Paul

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APNIC NIR Meeting What is an NIR? Paul Wilson, APNIC ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION

APNIC NIR Meeting What is an NIR? Paul Wilson, APNIC ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Background – NIR Meetings w Initiated as informal hostmaster session w For policy review,

Background – NIR Meetings w Initiated as informal hostmaster session w For policy review, training, networking (1999) w Became gradually more structured w Wider issues, agendas, and reports (2000) w Chaired by Seung-Min Lee, KRNIC w Now held as open sessions w Since proposed and agreed in KL (3/2001) w Chair: Akinori Maemura, JPNIC ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Background – NIR Meetings w Major topics … w Operational and hostmaster matters w

Background – NIR Meetings w Major topics … w Operational and hostmaster matters w Original purpose of meeting w Now move to “Hostmaster Workshop” w NIR staff exchange w Coordinating and reporting on NIR staff visits to APNIC w NIR policies w Review, comparison, and refinement w Intention to converge on consistent policies w Allocation procedures - “agent model” ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Background – NIR Meetings w Major topics, continued … w NIR fee and membership

Background – NIR Meetings w Major topics, continued … w NIR fee and membership structure w Concerns about voting and fee issues w KL Meeting: response from APNIC EC w Criteria for new NIRs w Review and comparison with existing NIRs w Ongoing discussion: What is an NIR? w KL, March 2001 ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

What is an NIR? w Or: Where is an NIR? APNIC NIR w Somewhere

What is an NIR? w Or: Where is an NIR? APNIC NIR w Somewhere between RIR and LIR w But where? … ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE LIR

What is an NIR? w Where is an NIR? NIR LIR APNIC w Closer

What is an NIR? w Where is an NIR? NIR LIR APNIC w Closer to RIR member? w Yes: w Pay member fees w Vote at meetings w But: w They are not and cannot be ISPs ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

What is an NIR? w Where is an NIR? LIR APNIC NIR w Closer

What is an NIR? w Where is an NIR? LIR APNIC NIR w Closer to RIR? w Yes: w Similar structure, responsibilities and operations w Independent from ISPs w But: w Treated like APNIC members in other respects ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

What is an NIR? w Current status APNIC NIR LIR w Can we improve

What is an NIR? w Current status APNIC NIR LIR w Can we improve on this? w Efforts so far… w Role and responsibilities (New NIR discussion) w Operational Model w Membership Model ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Role and responsibilities w Core operational responsibility w Review, negotiate and resolve requests w

Role and responsibilities w Core operational responsibility w Review, negotiate and resolve requests w Maintain whois and reverse DNS w Coordinate local policy process w i. e. Same as APNIC’s role w Support and service for LIRs in country w Local language and knowledge w i. e. Opportunity to improve APNIC’s service and efficiency, to do a better job ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Operational model w Original model… APNIC IP w w Request Negotiate Allocate NIR IP

Operational model w Original model… APNIC IP w w Request Negotiate Allocate NIR IP Request Negotiate Allocate LIR IP Asynchronous request process Intermediate pool of addresses held by NIR Serious fragmentation Serious address management problem for ISPs ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Operational model w “Agent” model… APNIC IP w w Approve NIR Request Negotiate Allocate

Operational model w “Agent” model… APNIC IP w w Approve NIR Request Negotiate Allocate Coordinated request/approval/allocation Single pool of addresses Greatly reduced fragmentation Efficient management of address space ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE LIR IP

Operational model w Implication of “Agent” model? Request Negotiate APNIC NIR IP w w

Operational model w Implication of “Agent” model? Request Negotiate APNIC NIR IP w w w Allocate LIR IP NIR operates closer to APNIC All NIR members/ISPs are APNIC members NIR is no longer a member but an “agent” in some closer sense ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Membership Model w Problems raised about fees and voting w No solution proposed yet

Membership Model w Problems raised about fees and voting w No solution proposed yet w But problems taken into account in current proposal for new categories w Implications of agent model on membership? w Potentially fundamental change w Needs discussion and initiative from NIRs ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

Conclusions? w NIR operating model w Extend “agency” model of allocation? w Standardise for

Conclusions? w NIR operating model w Extend “agency” model of allocation? w Standardise for all NIRs and NIR members? w Can we decide this ? w Solution to one major policy issue w NIR membership model? w Need a special member agreement? w Future of NIRs? w Especially: New NIRs in future? ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

APNIC NIR Meeting Questions? ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE

APNIC NIR Meeting Questions? ASIA PACIFIC NETWORK INFORMATION CENTRE