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13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 IEEE 802. 18 RR-TAG Plenary Agenda Dates: 13 - 15 November 18 Authors: Agenda Slide 1 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Call to Order / Administrative Items • Officers for the RR-TAG / IEEE 802. 18: Chair is Jay Holcomb (Itron) Vice-chair is open Secretary is Allan Zhu (Huawei) • Voters: 42 (9 on EC); Aspirant members: 12 • A quorum is met since this meeting was announced more then 45 days ago. • With teleconferences approval on 12 July 2018, quorum is met. After aug 31, after 12 July 2018. • IEEE 802 Required notices: Affiliation FAQ - http: //standards. ieee. org/faqs/affiliation. FAQ. html > Be sure to announce you name, affiliation, employer and clients the first time you speak. Anti-Trust FAQ - http: //standards. ieee. org/resources/antitrust-guidelines. pdf Ethics - https: //www. ieee. org/about/corporate/governance/p 7 -8. html IEEE 802 WG Policies and Procedures - http: //www. ieee 802. org/devdocs. shtml The 4 administration slides, reminder from your WG opening plenary new 02 jan 18 (note: call for essential patents is n/a, as the RR-TAG does not do standards) Agenda Slide 2 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs of different technical approaches that include relative costs of patent licensing terms may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain the primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. -------------------------------For more details, see IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5. 3. 10 and Antitrust and Competition Policy: What You Need to Know at http: //standards. ieee. org/develop/policies/antitrust. pdf Agenda Slide 3 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group subgroup, etc. ) is on an individual basis • Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https: //standards. ieee. org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws. pdf section 5. 2. 1) • IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. (subclause 4. 2. 1 “Establishment”, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) • Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant’s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. • Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https: //standards. ieee. org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws. pdf section 5. 2. 1. 3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3. 4. 1 “Chair”, list item x. By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (and please leave the meeting. ) Agenda Slide 4 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Agenda For Bangkok Plenary • Call to Order • • EU Items • General items, ETSI, CEPT, etc. • Presidential Memorandum on Developing a Sustainable Spectrum Strategy for America's Future • What can we support in it? Still looking for an 802. 18 Vice-Chair. Discussion items • EU Items • Presidential Memorandum on Sustainable Spectrum Strategy • 6 GHz NPRM and single voice from IEEE 802 • Thursday – • Guest Presentation • General Discussion Items • Continue on NPRM draft comments Actions required • • Need a recording secretary Approve agenda & last minutes • • Discussion items, few more details: Administrative items • • Attendance server is open • NPRM comments and tbd AOB and Adjourn Agenda • 6 GHz NPRM and single voice from IEEE 802 • Cont. working on 6 GHz NPRM comments to Option 2 • Guest presentation from APT • Mr. Masanori Kondo is Deputy Secretary General of Asia-Pacific Telecommunity (APT) • What is happening in ITU Region 3 • General discussion items: • From teleconference in the past weeks for Plenary attendees. • IEEE SA intelligent spectrum allocation and management statement is out • India licenses not required at 5 GHz, and UWB w/6 GHz • NCTA 5. 9 GHz letter • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices • Net Neutrality is sort of back • TVWS ex parte from 44 companies – rules for rural areas • Teleconferences moving forward. Slide 5 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Administrative – Motions and more • Need a recording secretary today • Motion: To approve the agenda as presented on previous slide Moved by: Stuart Kerry (Ruckus) Seconded by: Tim Harrington (Pro. ID) Discussion? Vote: Unanimous consent • Motion: To approve the minutes from the IEEE 802. 18 Interim meeting 11 -13 September 2018 in document: https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0114 -00 -0000 -meeting-minutes-sept-2018 -f 2 f-waikoloa-hi. docx Posted: 17 -Sep-2018 16: 03 ET Moved by: Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Sys. ) Seconded by: John Notor (Notor Research) Discussion? Vote: Unanimous consent • Does anyone have an interest in being the 802. 18 Vice-Chair? • Agenda Needs to be a member of the IEEE and also the SA, needs a declaration of term commitment and affiliation letters to the EC. of term commitment Slide 6 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Responsibilities of WG Vice Chair 3. 4. 2 Vice Chair(s) The responsibilities of the Vice Chair(s) shall include: a) Carrying out the Chair's duties if the Chair is temporarily unable to do so or chooses to recuse himself or herself (i. e. , to give a technical opinion) or chooses to delegate specific duties. b) Being knowledgeable in IEEE standards processes and parliamentary procedures and assisting the Chair in ensuring that the processes and procedures are followed. c) Being familiar with training materials available through IEEE Standards Development Online. • • • Needs to be a member of the IEEE SA. Declaration of term commitment and affiliation letters to the EC. Expected to be in attendance at all face to face meetings and most all the teleconferences. • Should consider to attend sunday wireless chair meeting and rules, EC open and EC close meetings during a plenary. Stand in for the Chair or Secretary if one of them is not able to attend a meeting or call or activity • e. g. at the Plenary EC opening and closing meetings if the Chair can not make it. • Learn how, and be able to update the website and attendance / approved voters process. Support the Chair and secretary in general • Including feedback to the chair and secretary on improved processes, e. g. meetings, calls, docs, procedures, etc. Currently amount of time is not anticipated too much on the day to day basis • • • Agenda Though busier if some research is needed for a topic, help on comments, etc. • Maybe once a month or so. It will vary. There may be helping/supporting the Chair with prep for the face to faces and occasionally for teleconferences. Would look at a periodic touch point with the chair depending on activity. Slide 7 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 • General EU news? • • EU items to share Nothing of note the past week. ETSI – BRAN – next meeting #100 - 17 -20 Dec. 2018, Sophia Antipolis • • doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 For EN 301 893, there are questions out if receive sensitivity is needed or not? Will be discussed at the December meeting. ETSI - ERM - TG-11 – next meeting # 55 - 08 -11 Apr 2019, Sophia Antipolis • Agenda Nothing of note the past week. Slide 8 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 EU items -2 • CEPT – ECC SE 45 - Next f 2 f #6 in Bonn Germany, 10 – 12 December 2018 • Nothing of note this week. • CEPT – ECC FM 57 - Next f 2 f #4 in Bonn Germany, 11 – 13 December 2018 • • Agenda Nothing of note this week. Slide 9 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Presidential Memorandum on Developing a Sustainable Spectrum Strategy for America's Future • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0134 -00 -0000 -developinga-sustainable-spectrum-strategy-for-america-s-future. docx • A couple of highlights: • • In the growing digital economy, wireless technologies expand opportunities to increase economic output of rural communities and connect them with urban markets, and offer safety benefits that save lives, prevent injuries, and reduce the cost of transportation incidents. Moreover, it is imperative that America be first in fifth-generation (5 G) wireless technologies -- wireless technologies capable of meeting the high-capacity, low-latency, and high-speed requirements that can unleash innovation broadly across diverse sectors of the economy and the public sector. There are more. Any points specifically we can point in this memorandum with our 6 GHz comments, like the current 6 GHz NPRM. N/A now with adjusted approach on NPRM comments. • How can we support this policy? The EC could do a Press Release on some of the topics. Members were not seeing it from 802. 18. Agenda Slide 10 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802 - reference • Docket 18 -295 for this specific NPRM is now active. • https: //www. fcc. gov/ecfs/search/filings? proceedings_name=18295&sort=date_disseminated, DESC • Final NPRM did come out: • • https: //www. fcc. gov/document/6 -ghz-unlicensed-nprm https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0133 -00 -0000 -nprm-6 ghz-et-18 -295. docx • Note: the 18 -0133 r 01 has most of the updates from the draft highlighted. • Comments will be 60 days and Reply comments 30 days later. • Recent Federal Register time lines is about 20 days. (Check the calendar, if that happens here. ) • 57 seek comments; 144 question marks • EC document discussed at July Plenary with EC Chairs, w/some background. • <ec-18 -0133 -00 -00 EC-how-can-ieee-802 -get-to-a-single-voice-for-6 ghz-band. pptx> • Basic layout of the ranges the NPMR is addressing Band (GHz) 5. 925 -6. 425 -6. 525 -6. 875 6. 875 -7. 125 Agenda Primary Allocations Fixed Service FSS Mobile Service FSS Fixed Service Mobile Service FSS Reference used in this NPRM U-NII-5 U-NII-6 U-NII-7 U-NII-8 Slide 11 Devices Standard-Power Access Point Low-Power Access Point Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802 – option 2 (1. 5) – 1 of 1 • Per previous discussions we are working on comments where IEEE 802 is today and where it is going with standards for the 6 GHz band • • The plan is: this is it for IEEE 802 level comments. • • What is there now; IEEE 802. 15. 4, FCC Part 15. 250 and 15. 5 xx What is coming; IEEE 802. 15. 4 z; 802. 11 several amendments coming. And not desired/possible outcomes, will leave to the FCC and others. Point is not dive deep into the NPRM specific topics and how they will affect/relate back to all of IEEE 802. Here is a draft of IEEE 802 comments in process, maybe later revisions, now. • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0139 -00 -0000 -fcc-18 -295 -ieee-802 comment. docx • We all need to review and feedback edits and get it representing all of IEEE 802. • See r 3 for the markups of the edits after Tuesday and r 4 for a cleaner copy. • Agenda https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0139 -04 -0000 -fcc-18 -295 -ieee-802 -comment. docx Slide 12 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Recess • AOB before Recess to Thursday AM 1. • Do we plan to meet Thursday AM 2? • Many would not be able to make it. • We are recessed until Thursday AM 1. Agenda Slide 13 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Thursday Agenda • Reminder of IEEE policies we are under. • • Attendance server is open. Remember to state your name, affiliation, employer and/or clients first time you speak. • Items from Tuesday or new. • • Guest presentation from APT • General discussion items, discuss the ones there are comments/questions from the members. • Teleconferences moving forward. Continue on the IEEE 802 as a whole response to the FCC 6 GHz NPRM. • Actions Required • AOB • Adjourn Agenda Slide 14 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Guest Presenter • Would like to introduce Mr. Masanori Kondo, Deputy Secretary General of Asia-Pacific Telecommunity (APT). • He was with Japan’s MIT before joining APT • His presentation is - What is happening in ITU Region 3. • 18 -18/0136 r 00 • Agenda Slide 15 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802 – Continue Edits • Work on comments where IEEE 802 is today and where it is going with standards for the 6 GHz band • • • What is there now, IEEE 802. 15. 4, FCC Part 15. 250 What is coming; IEEE 802. 15. 4 z; 802. 11 several amendments coming. Here is the current draft of IEEE 802 comments in process, maybe later revisions, now. • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0139 -04 -0000 -fcc-18 -295 -ieee-802 comment. docx • Goal is to finish edits/updates and have ready for Sponsor (EC) review. • Note: Need to leave enough time to run through the general discussion items and wrap up. (20+ mins) Do we meet AM 2? • Agenda Slide 16 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -1 of 6 • IEEE SA Intelligent Spectrum Allocation and Management Statement is finalized. • https: //standards. ieee. org/about/policies/position. html • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0142 -00 -0000 -ieee-sa-intelligentspectrum-allocation-and-management-statement. pdf • • This is where we fed back updates and edits on, earlier in the year. Agenda Slide 17 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -2 a of 6 • From India WPC - no licenses shall be required under indoor and outdoor environment… … … 5 GHz band. • • • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0138 -00 -0000 -india-no-licenses-most-of-5 ghz 191359. pdf Short title and commencement. — (1) These rules may be called the Use of Wireless Access System including Radio Local Area Network in 5 GHz band (Exemption from Licensing Requirement) Rules, 2018. 3. Exemption. — No licence shall be required under indoor and outdoor environment to establish, maintain, work, possess or deal in any wireless equipment for the purpose of low power wireless access systems, including radio local area networks operating in the frequency band 5 150 -5 250 MHz; 5 250 -5 350 MHz; 5 470 -5 725 MHz; and 5 725 -5 875 MHz and complying with the following technical parameters; namely: - (see filing for more… … …) • All should look at paragraph 6. 0 on interference. • There are some caveats. Agenda Slide 18 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -2 b of 6 • From India WPC – UWB is approved, including the 6 GHz band: • 18 -18 -0146 -00 -0000 -india-uwb-rules-including-6 ghz. pdf • Short title and commencement. — (1) These rules may be called the Use of Very Low Power Ultra-wideband Devices (Exemption from Licensing Requirements) Rules, 2018. 3. Exemption. — No licence shall be required by any person to establish, maintain, work, possess or deal in any wireless equipment for the purpose of usage of very low power ultra-wideband devices or wireless equipment in the frequency bands on non-interference, non-protection and shared on non-exclusive basis, with the equivalent isotropic radiated power or effective radiated power, maximum mean power spectral density, maximum peak power defined in 50 MHz and complying with the technical specification contained in the Table-I to Table-V, namely: … • Includes: 5. 725 < f 8. 5 GHz Agenda Slide 19 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -3 of 6 • DSRC ex parte from NCTA • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0129 -00 -0000 -fresh-look-ex-parte-10 -15 -18 -et-13 -49 dsrc. pdf https: //www. fcc. gov/ecfs/search/filings? proceedings_name=13 -49&sort=date_disseminated, DESC https: //www. fcc. gov/document/commissioner-orielly-statement-ncta-59 -ghz-letter STATEMENT OF COMMISSIONER MICHAEL O’RIELLY • • WASHINGTON, October 16, 2018. – “It is pure folly to believe that DSRC will ever work as envisioned, as time and technology advancements elsewhere have undermined previous use cases. As NCTA correctly seeks in today’s ex parte letter, the Commission should quickly reexamine the 5. 9 GHz band for repurposing. Once concluded, I am confident that at least 45 megahertz can be reallocated for unlicensed services without jeopardizing automobile safety. ” • • • DOT has had this spectrum for nearly 20 years and still not getting to done. We tried before (11 p, …) and not looking we could get single voice out of. 11 now, e. g. NGV etc. At the teleconferences, decided to hold and see what happens. • • Additional: https: //www. fcc. gov/document/commissioner-rosenworcel-statement-59 -ghz-band STATEMENT OF COMMISSIONER JESSICA ROSENWORCEL “I continue to support efforts to facilitate safe, unlicensed access to the 5. 9 GHz band. In the nearly twenty years since the FCC allocated this spectrum, autonomous and connected vehicles have largely moved beyond dedicated short range communications technology to newer, market-driven alternatives. It is time to take a fresh look at this band to allow a broader range of uses. By taking these steps now, we can support automobile safety, increase spectrum for Wi-Fi, and grow our wireless economy. ” Agenda Jay Holcomb (Itron) Slide 20
01 Nov 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -4 a of 6 • • • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices -1 of 3 The Commission’s Office of Engineering and Technology (OET) is requesting comment on the report for Phase I of tests performed to evaluate potential sharing solutions between the proposed Unlicensed National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) devices and Dedicated Short Range Communications (DSRC) operations in the 5850 -5925 MHz (U-NII-4) frequency band. The attached report provides a detailed summary of the testing methodology, measurements, and observations. Request for comments: • • Report: • • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0140 -00 -0000 -phase-i-testing-of-prototype-u-nii-4 -devices. docx https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0141 -00 -0000 -phase-i-testing-of-prototype-u-nii-4 -devices-report. pdf Proceeding: • https: //www. fcc. gov/ecfs/search/filings? proceedings_name=13 -49&sort=date_disseminated, DESC • https: //www. fcc. gov/document/fcc-requests-comment-59 -ghz-phase-i-testing-data • Comment Date: 28 November 2018 • EC vote 16 nov, or do reply comments. • Reply Comments Date: 13 December 2018 Agenda Slide 21 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
01 Nov 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -4 b of 6 • • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices -2 of 3 As summarized in the report, we found the prototype devices reliably detected DSRC signals. The report includes the results of the evaluation of the Wi-Fi sharing techniques since one of the proposed band sharing methods would require re-channelization of the DSRC spectrum. In brief, the test results show that the prototype U-NII-4 devices were able to detect a co-channel DSRC signal and implement post detection steps as claimed by the submitters. • Knowing history, can we get agreement on points to comment on? • What would they be? • • • Detect and vacate mentioned above, is not covering if there is any harmful interference. Mitigation seems to still be open. DOT will be the judge on safety of transportation. They get the say what is needed. The report is just a testing report, and not on the safety of transportation. O’Reily’s comment does not consider there is CV 2 X, C-V 2 X, …. …. coming along now, that is being discussed elsewhere. In the end for those on the call, not looking like there is interest for IEEE 802 to comment. Agenda Slide 22 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -4 c of 6 • Phase I testing of prototype U-NII-4 devices -3 of 3 • Statement of commissioner Michael O’Rielly on 5. 9 GHz phase I testing data • • DOC-354831 A 1. docx DOC-354831 A 1. pdf DOC-354831 A 1. txt While I appreciate release of the 5. 9 GHz Phase I testing data, the results are not all that surprising given the simple questions posed. The reality is that the entire debate has gravitated away from the type of sharing regime envisioned in the testing. Instead, the Commission should move past this and initiate a rulemaking to reallocate at least 45 megahertz of the band, which is completely unused today for automobile safety • Commissioner Rosenworcel on phase I test report of prototype U-N-II-4 devices. • • DOC-354830 A 1. docx DOC-354830 A 1. pdf DOC-354830 A 1. txt “Nearly two years after the deadline for completing a three-phase test plan to determine whether auto safety and Wi-Fi can share the 5. 9 GHz band, this agency is releasing the results of its lab testing. These results are long overdue. But we need to do more than just make our work public. We need to start a rulemaking to take a fresh look at this band its real possibilities. ” Agenda Slide 23 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -5&6 of 6 • Net Neutrality is sort of back • https: //www. reuters. com/article/us-usa-court-netneutrality/u-s-supreme-court-ends-fight-overobama-era-net-neutrality-rulesid. USKCN 1 NA 1 UW? utm_medium=techboard. mon. 20181105&utm_source=email&utm_content=& utm_campaign=campaign • From Commissioner Rosenworcel: (the commission) “actually petitioned the Supreme Court to erase history and wipe out an earlier court decision upholding open internet policies. But today the Supreme Court refused to do so. ” • 44 companies have asked the FCC to make some changes to the TVWS rules. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/110225014474/FCC%20 Joint%20 Letter%2011. 2. pdf 1. Higher power for fixed devices in rural areas where we can operate without causing harmful interference to broadcasters; 2. Antenna placement at larger heights above average terrain governed by a new protection mechanism; 3. Narrowband Io. T operations to support important applications such as precision agriculture and environmental sensing; and 4. Geofenced operation on moving vehicles. Agenda Slide 24 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Teleconferences • Motion: The 802. 18 Chair or Vice Chair is directed to conduct, as necessary, teleconferences on Thursdays at 15: 00 ET through 25 April 2019 • • Agenda Moved by: John Notor (Notor Research) Seconded by: Guido Hiertz (Ericsson) Discussion? Vote: __ Y / __ N / __ A Slide 25 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Actions Required • As we continue to work the IEEE 802 as a whole comments on the FCC NPRM on 6 GHz, please send red lines, edits, new text to the chair to integrate into the ongoing draft for further review and edits. • Monitor: • • The 5. 9 GHz / DSRC ex parte. Sharing and license-exempt; • • • Agenda Additional Fixed Service (FS) Protection ex parte <doc> Next Generation Spectrum Management (NGSM) <doc> 802. 11 WNG proposal on Future of Unlicensed Spectrum <doc> A perspective on regardless of everything we do, the available spectrum has a hard limit <doc> Including push to bi-directional sharing <doc> Slide 26 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Any Other Business • • • None. Straw Poll How many people would like to come back to this venue? Yes -- # No – # Like the Social – Disliked the Social – Did not go to Social – • # # # Agenda Slide 27 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Adjourn • Next teleconference: 29 Nov 2018 – 15: 00 – <15: 55 ET • Call in info: https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/16/18 -16 -0038 -10 -0000 teleconference-call-in-info. pptx (or latest) • Note: If the call-in link doesn’t work send the Chair an email right away. • All changes/cancellations will be sent out to the 802. 18 list server. • Adjourn: • Agenda complete, any objection to Adjourn. • None heard, we are Adjourned at 1___: ______ET • The next face to face meeting of the 802. 18 RR-TAG will be at the IEEE 802 1318 January 19 the Wireless Interim in St. Louis, MO, USA at the Hilton St Louis at the Ballpark. • Time slots, Tuesday AM 2 and Thursday AM 1 (and AM 2 as extra) • Safe Travels Agenda Slide 28 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Thank You • Reference, links to EU sites: • Bran: • ERM TG-11: https: //portal. etsi. org/tb. aspx? tbid=442&Sub. TB=442 • CEPT SE 45: https: //cept. org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-se/se-45/client/introduction/ • CEPT FM 57: https: //cept. org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-fm/fm-57/client/introduction/ • OJEU: https: //eur-lex. europa. eu/oj/direct-access. html • HS: https: //ec. europa. eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/ https: //portal. etsi. org/tb. aspx? tbid=287&Sub. TB=287 Back up and/or previous slides follow Agenda Slide 29 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 3. 0 Officers doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Responsibilities of Working Group Officers There shall be a Chair and a Secretary, and there should be a Vice Chair. The office of Treasurer is suggested if significant funds are involved in the operation of the Working Group and/or its subgroups or if the group has multiple financial reports to supply to the IEEE Standards Association. A person may simultaneously hold the positions of Secretary and Treasurer. The Chair and Vice Chair(s) shall each be IEEE members of any grade, except Student grade, or IEEE Society affiliates, and also be members of IEEE-SA. 3. 4 Responsibilities of Working Group Officers When carrying out the duties of an officer described in IEEE’s policies and procedures, officers of the Working Group: a) shall not act: 1) in bad faith; 2) to the detriment of IEEE-SA; 3) to further the interest of any party outside IEEE over the interest of IEEE; or 4) in a manner that is inconsistent with the purposes or objectives of IEEE, and; b) shall use best efforts to ensure that participants of the working group conduct themselves in accordance with applicable policies and procedures including, but not limited to, SASB Bylaws 5. 2. 1. The officers of the Working Group shall manage the day-to-day operations of the Working Group. The officers are responsible for implementing the decisions of the Working Group and managing the activities that result from those decisions. Agenda Slide 30 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
19 April 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Motion – FCC 6 GHz NPRM IEEE 802 Comments • Motion: Move to approve the comments in 18 -18/0____r 0__ to FCC’s NPRM (ET Docket No. 18 -295) on Unlicensed use of the 6 GHz Band. With the chair of 802. 18 to have editorial privileges and send to the EC for review/approval and submission to the FCC by ____ 2019. Moved by: Seconded by: Discussion? Vote: ___Y / ___N / __A Agenda Slide 31 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802 – option 1 - 1 of 2 • Proposed first option for IEEE 802 response, 1 filing – all views. • Review the final NPRM. • Identify what topics of interest IEEE 802 as a whole should consider to respond to. • Focusing on suggested primary option 1, one filing all (both) IEEE 802 sides • Watching for: If this primary option is not going to work, and need to change? • • With limited time, meetings and calls; suggested email threads have started to pull in from the membership items to build our comments, which may need to be done by late December / early January. • • 1) What points/topics we should focus on for IEEE 802 as a whole. 2) Time line items • At this point no replies on first two threads. Also need to connect with the IEEE Broadcast Technology Society (BTS) • Agenda This may get the IEEE GPPC involved. Slide 32 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802 – option 1 – 2 of 2 • Cont. • We should pull in points and topics from the Wi. Fi coalition and the UWB groups to help us formulate our IEEE 802 overall response, considering our smaller team? • Need a time line to share with the EC early, the beginning, will refine as needed. • • Agenda Early submission ready for EC 16 November Early outline of topics to cover 15 November, end of Plenary Final outline of topics to cover 29 November (possible dates, tbd) First draft (06 December) EC preview Due date - 4 weeks (21 December) Go to EC for approval Due date - 2 weeks (03 January (5 day)) Due date _______ (Could be 15 January) Slide 33 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802, references 1 of 2 • Here are some of the more important filings to help show the direction the filing is going, considering the different interest groups. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/109113089205438/SPA%20 Comments%20(Sep%2011%202018)(FINAL). pdf • Response to FWCC and Comscope. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/109112152615349/Wi. Fi%20 Alliance%20 Comments%20 on%20 Spectrum%20 Pipeline%20 Act%20 Report. pdf • This is the refined position, with some changes. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/1090794008994/WInn. Forum%20 Comments%20 on%20 Spectrum%20 Pipeline%2 0 Act%20 PN%20 -%20 Final. pdf • Wanting to make 6 GHz like the 3. 5 GHz for sharing. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/1082899870012/2018 -0828%20 Ex. P%20 RLAN%20 issues%20 AS%20 FILED%20(01229194 x. B 3 D 1 E). pdf • The 4 big mobile operators. 1000 new receivers that are activated per year, now, under current rules. Doesn’t include all the changes also going on. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/10824085329605/Commscope%208. 22. 18%20 Mtg%20 Ex%20 Parte. pdf • Primary frequency coordination, so has lots of history/experience for frequency coordination. . • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/108080219920074/WFA%20 Ex%20 Parte%20 Letter. pdf • How to protect incumbents. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/10717207604667/17 -183%20 FWCC%20 Ex. P%20 Notice%202018 -07 -17%20 -%20 AS%20 FILED. pdf • Read attachment. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/1070541429397/7 -5 -18%20 SESIntelsat%20 ex%20 parte%20 for%20 Mc. Grath%20 and%20 Javed. pdf • Other 2 satellite operators. Agenda Slide 34 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802, references 2 of 2 • More: • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/104120372328746/6%20 GHz%20 OET%20 and%20 Bureaus%20 E x%20 Parte%20(Apr. %2012%2 C%202018). pdf • OET debriefing, lots of points covered. Gets you up to April 2018. • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/101261169015803/6%20 GHz%20 Ex%20 Parte%20(Bureaus). pdf • For 6 GHz interest, we should begin with the RKF Study for sharing 1200 MHz above 5925 MHz • Some of the primary interest groups. • • Broadcast Satellite Coordinator Skipped over utilities (will be protected; looking further asking for protection) <see latest> Skipped over public safety (going to First Net) (some discussion how backbone will work) No federal government uses Some additional notes. • • Agenda This band with 9 sets of rules is a very unique band in that respect. To add to the possible list of option for a single voice for IEEE 802: have a view on spectrum management of the band. (and maybe more silent on the rest). Slide 35 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 6 GHz and single voice from IEEE 802, references cont. Some references on past EU UWB actions: February 27, 2007 https: //www. anacom. pt/render. jsp? content. Id=987504 April 21, 2009 https: //www. mtitc. government. bg/upload/docs/Reshenie_343_ot_21_April_20 09___EN. pdf October 7, 2014 https: //www. anacom. pt/render. jsp? content. Id=1338515 August 4, 2017 https: //www. anacom. pt/render. jsp? content. Id=1415687 UWB is Always treated as equipment, not a service. Agenda Slide 36 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -1 • Additional Fixed Service (FS) Protection ex parte • An ex parte filing given to the FCC on July 31 st on sharing • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0097 -00 -0000 -ex-parte-next-data-base-6 -ghzadditional-fs-protection-discussion. pdf • The proposal is to add a third database to the current TV White Space and CBRS databases. • Automatic Frequency Coordination. • Anyone familiar with the Frankenstein mess of automotive emissions controls knows that a piecemeal approach has a troubled future. Now is the time for us to plan for spectrum management for the next 20 years. • We don’t need to stop current database developments, but must keep an eye to a future where all spectrum is controlled this way • CBRS, 6 GHz, TVWS… • What are thoughts from all on adding another coordination data base? • • Note: the NPRM on 3. 7 – 4. 2 GHz is asking about the database used for CBRS. Looks like a 4 th data base is being proposed and is this a good thing? • 11 y, TVWS, CBRS, This one (6 GHz), (and a 5 th possibly at 3. 7 to 4. 2 GHz. ) • Agenda A paper is being worked to cover this more completely. Slide 37 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 General Discussion Items -4 • Sharing and license-exempt • A study on feasibility and next steps toward a Next Generation Spectrum Management (NGSM). • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 11/dcn/18/11 -18 -1386 -00 -0 wng-ngsm-nextgeneration-spectrum-management. pptx • 802. 11 San Diego WGN proposal on Future of Unlicensed Spectrum • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802 -ec/dcn/18/ec-18 -0155 -00 -00 EC-push-to-bidirectional-spectrum-sharing. pptx • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0060 -02 -0000 -a-future-for-unlicensedspectrum. pptx • Bi-directional sharing • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802 -ec/dcn/18/ec-18 -0155 -00 -00 EC-push-to-bidirectional-spectrum-sharing. pptx • This came up in the IEEE 802 Leader. Con session in July and the 802. 18 chair along with others have an action item to look at this more. Agenda Slide 38 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Wi. Fi / UWB Coexistence -1 • IEEE 802. 19 and other WG chairs are working on IEEE 802 single voice. • From a high level, could we list out some of the following. • Do not want to get into detail, just high level points to consider to help. • What criteria should be considered? • • • Agenda Power out needed, different for each technology. Bandwidth considerations. Channel sense, e. g. LBT. Incumbent protection. Interference types, blocks. vs. range decrease. Operational ranges themselves. Different modulation types. Tuning range of UWB (global considerations). Thursday: Is there a way to ID that UWB is there and transmitting? Slide 39 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Wi. Fi / UWB Coexistence -2 • What Use Cases should be considered? Agenda • • • Higher speed (wider BWs) for Wi. Fi users, e. g. streaming video, etc. • • • Thursday: Global availability (S. Korea just this week consultation 6 – 10. 2 GHz for UWB) UWB applications - Many (See 15 -17/0660), e. g. location is a significant use case. Where devices are used, height, indoor/outdoor, etc. Review 15. 2 co-existence of Wi. Fi / BT / … Co-located in a device, and non-co-located. Nothing new. Slide 40 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 IEEE EU position statement on spectrum management • From earlier teleconferences: • IEEE European Public Policy Position Statement on Spectrum Management • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0028 -01 -0000 -draft-ieee-europeanpublic-policy-position-statement-on-spectrum-management. pdf (old rev) • We are being asked to review this statement, similar to the one in November, though some focus for the EU. Guidance is to review and comment in detail. • Document 18 -18/0028 rxx, latest revision is our current review markup. • Please send comments to. 18 chair, to integrate, to be reviewed by the TAG. • Becoming clearer the starting premise of the current paper is from several years ago and input is coming in the premise has changed in recent years. • Considering the question on older premise, it has on the statement: • This statement was developed by the IEEE European Public Policy Committee Working Group on ICT and represents the considered judgment of a broad group of European IEEE members with expertise in the subject field. Agenda Slide 41 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 IEEE EU Position Statement -2 • Went through 18 -18/0028 r 01 review copy, the remaining sections we have not reviewed and found a couple of specific areas that need clarity. • And brought audience up to speed on point premise of paper is from a few years back and had agreement with those that spoke up. • Some general questions: • Should the IEEE SA (the position statement we reviewed in November and January) and the IEEE EU collaborate on these 2 separate position statements in some fashion? • Then move above them. (. 18 should still review) • • • What was original driver to do the statement? Who is the general audience it is written for? As it is, there is a concern if it is sent out and organizations our members are working with, CEPT, BRAN, etc. it will cause confusion, and more. • Request that anyone with specific input to continue to please pass on to the. 18 chair, sooner. • . 18 chair will cleanup the review revision of the paper (should end up r 02) and ask the IEEE 802 chair for further guidance on next steps. Agenda Slide 42 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 IEEE EU spectrum management statement • What was sent to the IEEE 802 chair for a short write up on our overall view and what is needed: • In our opinion spectrum policy cannot be based on measuring 3 -D occupancy and then enforce corrections. Spectrum policy needs to allow for dynamic sharing and allocation with the technologies available today and coming in the future. In addition, society’s goals are not that all spectrum is occupied in high-value locations, rather that services are available in high-value locations, meeting what users are expecting. • And there is agreement to propose using the SA statement for this need also, as it will work globally. • Discussed even if SA wants to keep separate from the other Operating Units, we still feel this statement could work for the EU (and globally). • • Email sent to GPPC and cc: the EU spectrum group contact. And, nothing at this point. Agenda Slide 43 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 A Future For Unlicensed Spectrum – from last week • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • See: https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0060 -02 -0000 -a-future-for -unlicensed-spectrum. pptx • Will review and discuss • The idea is to cover the entire spectrum in the database, all of it. • Then knowing what frequency range the device is in and geographic location, can manage the users. • Similar idea years back were not fully accepted, though with recent actions, e. g. 6 GHz, a data base maybe viewed differently now. • Should look at the CBRS database and what can we learn from it. • This is a long term effort, and need to start to put all the pieces together, before going to regulators. • 3550 filings of interest: • • Google October 2017 overall summary • https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/10160477327041/2017 -10 -16%20 Ex%20 Parte%20(GN%2012 -354%20 RM-11788%20 RM 11789). pdf • Slide 16 SAS providers & carriers have developed a mutuall satisfactory legal agreement covering confidential data • Appendix A: Wireless Innovation Forum and SAS and CBSD Standards Development https: //ecfsapi. fcc. gov/file/60001854348. pdf Agenda Slide 44 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 A Future For Unlicensed Spectrum • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • See: https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 18/dcn/18/18 -18 -0060 -02 -0000 -a-future-for -unlicensed-spectrum. pptx (more regulatory based) • The most recent document is: 11 -18/1055 rxx (more standards based) • We reviewed and discussed the latest. 11 version for Plenary WNG in San Diego. • The idea is to cover the entire spectrum in the database, all of it. • Then knowing what frequency range the device is in and geographic location, can manage the users. • Similar idea years back were not fully accepted, though with recent actions, e. g. 6 GHz, a data base maybe viewed differently now. • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • • Agenda Slide 45 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 IEEE – not connected and underserved (from last week) • IEEE Connectivity Coalition • Internet Inclusion means that all stakeholders are engaged in the planning and implementation of technology systems; that all potential people impacted can access and have certain rights to understand the implications of the technology and know how to use it safely and ethically; and that with these technologies come more services, tools, increased information and opportunities to expand access for communities around the world. As digital technology is increasingly used for educational, employment, health, commercial and informational purposes, Internet Inclusion is critical for full engagement, participation and opportunity in the social, economic and civic life of society. • This ties into the effort brought up at the Chicago meeting on how to connect the 3. 8 B people, not connected today. • Stayed tuned as we learn more. • Rich will be talking to Senior Director, Technology Policy and International Affairs on this and what we can do. Agenda Slide 46 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Potential reference document when doing comments • Note: in the 802. 19 co-existence <1 GHz meeting it was brought up for IEEE 802 as a whole to put together a document on basic spectrum parameters that would be good for all IEEE 802 standards to co-exist (less interference…. ) • Actually, need to have this for all IEEE 802 to just work in the spectrum, e. g. BWs needed. Not just coexistence. • Point being that 802. 18 can refer to / use when responding to regulators on different consultations, to encourage regulators in general to configure their spectrum to allow all the IEEE 802 standards in a more consistent/friendly way. • For the many in attendance, it was felt many regulators would appreciate at least knowing this. • Additional point to add to the doc, duty cycle is not for the protocol/standard/amendment being discussed, it is a regulation to allow others (and their packet lengths) to have access to the spectrum. Agenda Slide 47 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
13 -15 November 2018 doc. : IEEE 802. 18 -18/0144 r 01 Fellowship Request • Fellowship request on reaching out to all regulators. • Enhancing Collaboration between IEEE 802 and World Regulators on unlicensed spectrum regulations • https: //mentor. ieee. org/802. 11/dcn/18/11 -18 -0580 -01 -coex-enhancing-collaborationbetween-ieee-802 -and-world-regulators-on-unlicensed-spectrum-regulations. pptx • • Thursday: • A start is to keep in touch with the fellowship attendees. • They are welcome to our meetings and calls. • Could something be added to the IEEE newsletter/communication for the regulators, to answer the news letter input? • Can IEEE be more pro-active with some of the other (e. g. regional) regulators? • The challenge is to ID which we can, and being a volunteer / individual organization, the time and money from the volunteers? • Many regulators don’t have IEEE has a point of contact like they do with WFA or other implementing orgs do. Agenda Slide 48 Jay Holcomb (Itron)
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